Your 2010 NFL MVP is?

[MTK]

The Eagles would still be a playoff contending team with Kolb in the lineup. Can't say the same for the Pats without Brady.

31 TDs vs 4 INTs is just off the charts sick

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

The Eagles would still be a playoff contending team with Kolb in the lineup. Can't say the same for the Pats without Brady.

31 TDs vs 4 INTs is just off the charts sick

Really? I think the Eagles would not be tops in the east and with the NFC South so strong and Chicago Bears coming alive, I think they would be outside looking in...Brady second half of the season has been unbelievable. Its a toss up, but I lean towards Vick. Its hard for me to avoid what he has been through, its flat out unbelievable. EVERYONE thought Vick was done and diminished his past preformances as QB...apparently leading the first visiting team to win in Lambaugh field in the playoffs not a big deal. His career W/L record at QB for the Falcons is not bad. He changed the QB position, in college football there is a direct link from Vick to Tebow and Newton, the running QB as a weapon. He was the most hated guy in the sports world and noone wanted him to succeed and now he's carrying a team now in such an impressive fashion.

So I cant ignore what he has been through and to see such growth makes him the MVP IMO.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Really? I think the Eagles would not be tops in the east and with the NFC South so strong and Chicago Bears coming alive, I think they would be outside looking in...Brady second half of the season has been unbelievable. Its a toss up, but I lean towards Vick. Its hard for me to avoid what he has been through, its flat out unbelievable. EVERYONE thought Vick was done and diminished his past preformances as QB...apparently leading the first visiting team to win in Lambaugh field in the playoffs not a big deal. His career W/L record at QB for the Falcons is not bad. He changed the QB position, in college football there is a direct link from Vick to Tebow and Newton, the running QB as a weapon. He was the most hated guy in the sports world and noone wanted him to succeed and now he's carrying a team now in such an impressive fashion.

So I cant ignore what he has been through and to see such growth makes him the MVP IMO.

Not saying the Eagles would still be leading the division with Kolb, but I do think they would be in the playoff hunt.

Take away Brady and they're lucky to be .500

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Not saying the Eagles would still be leading the division with Kolb, but I do think they would be in the playoff hunt.

Take away Brady and they're lucky to be .500

I dont know, they gotta another Matt Cassel in the depth charts we dont know about? That dude stepped it up pretty big for the Pats a couple years ago. When talking about the MVPs of Brady and Vick, look at those organizations and how they are run. Both are proven winners in the FO. Great talent evaluators, super smart with contracts, know when to let vets walk, coaching is top notch, they will take chances on guys (Moss, TO, Vick) etc. AND they continue to win...So Vick or Brady MVPs? Or are those organization run so effecient they put players in the best situation to succeed at particular points in time? I think you take away Brady and Vick, they may both be in the playoff hunt

[30gut]

I know its lame but i think this calls for a co-MVPs
Brady and Vick

Originally Posted by Chico23231

EVERYONE thought Vick was done and diminished his past preformances as QB...

People did try to diminish his past performances.
I used to live in ATL and Vick's ability was indelible.
I never thought he was done, honest*.


*Post 210 i was arguing in another forum or should i say against an entire forum it seemed like:
WT 360: Vick heads home, but will he return to NFL as a Redskin?

[MTK]

Watching some practice walk throughs a few years makes Brady a better QB today... really? lol

[hail_2_da_skins]

I know we hate the Eagles, but Michael Vick is the NFL MVP. Brady is great but Vick is electric.

[Jontrem]

Are you saying that Vick created the running threat as a QB? It goes back much farther than that, just three obvious names are Major Harris, Tony Rice and Kordell Stewart.

To be clear I am not a Mike Vick hatter. What he did was deplorable but he paid his price for it and acted like a man. One of my best friends growing up was his main receiver in college too, so I have some measure of love for him because of that. I am basing this based on the seasons that the two have had.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Jontrem

Are you saying that Vick created the running threat as a QB? It goes back much farther than that, just three obvious names are Major Harris, Tony Rice and Kordell Stewart.

I didnt say create, I said changed. He was/is much better, faster, and more of a playmaker than those 3 combined IMO. Major Harris was a beast though

[Jontrem]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Major Harris was a beast though

Yes he was! Most of my family was/are huge Notre Dame fans and the ones who aren't are Rutgers fans, I was at the game in I think 89 where Harris had maybe his best game. I think he rushed for around 200 yards. I remember my father telling me I would never see another athlete like him (I was 10 at the time) oh how wrong my dad was!

Thanks for the clarification!

[tdSKINS1]

[/QUOTE]To be clear I am not a Mike Vick hatter. What he did was deplorable but he paid his price for it and acted like a man. One of my best friends growing up was his main receiver in college too, so I have some measure of love for him because of that. I am basing this based on the seasons that the two have had.[/QUOTE]


Was you your best friend Andre Davis? I grew up watching Vick in Blacksburg and since Vick was only there those 2 years I was seeing who your friend was and if he got to play in the National Championship with Vick

[Jontrem]

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Was you your best friend Andre Davis? I grew up watching Vick in Blacksburg and since Vick was only there those 2 years I was seeing who your friend was and if he got to play in the National Championship with Vick[/QUOTE]


Yes it was, I lived next door to him since I was 4 and played in highschool my other neighbor and I convinced him to play football instead of soccer his Junior year. Andre is by far and away the best overall person I have EVER met. Very forgiving very friendly and family orientated and would never hurt anyone.

Do you remember in the build up to the national championship game Peter Warrick said Andre who? when someone asked him about him. I always disliked Warrick for that and found it funny that Andre had a much longer career than Warrick.

[TheSmurfs22]

Brady is the MVP this year. He has a cast of no names for the most part and they continue to roll over competition.

Rivers would be my second choice.

[Jontrem]

I think the above is a valid point. Only it should be remembered that Cassel is showing that what he did in New England wasn't all just the system or the talent around him. The guy can play some good football.

[Terpfan76]

At this point, I'm going with Brady but Peyton Manning deserves some props... perhaps an honorable mention. The guy is keeping his team in contention with a MASH unit for an offense. He loses wrs on a weekly basis and has no running game, yet he still manages to get the job done. This team won't play for the Super Bowl, hell, they may not make the Playoffs, but the Colts are one team that would be as bad if not worse than the Panthers if Manning went down. In my mind, that makes him the MVP.