ESPN: Teams that are helped/hurt by the new salary cap proposal

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Haven't heard if he's lazy. But you compare him to Shaun Rogers, a player that numerous people were skeptical about before he signed with New Orleans after visiting here, and there's no question that 1)Rogers is going to age better than Franklin and 2)Rogers is worth more money than Franklin.

Rogers signed for one-year, $4 million. Franklin could reasonably expect to get 3/25 or something bigger. Point is, one player is going to get the kind of deal that the Redskins have always been guilty of giving out (one that can't be outperformed), and the other is almost certainly going to offer surplus value.

I was pleasantly surprised w/Anthony Bryant last year & was hoping the coaches felt he could start & then the rook from WV might back him up. The D played a couple of its best games w/bryant in there.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I was pleasantly surprised w/Anthony Bryant last year & was hoping the coaches felt he could start & then the rook from WV might back him up. The D played a couple of its best games w/bryant in there.

agreed!

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Haven't heard if he's lazy. But you compare him to Shaun Rogers, a player that numerous people were skeptical about before he signed with New Orleans after visiting here, and there's no question that 1)Rogers is going to age better than Franklin and 2)Rogers is worth more money than Franklin.

Rogers signed for one-year, $4 million. Franklin could reasonably expect to get 3/25 or something bigger. Point is, one player is going to get the kind of deal that the Redskins have always been guilty of giving out (one that can't be outperformed), and the other is almost certainly going to offer surplus value.

wasn't aware that rogers got 4 mil from new orleans. pretty surprising.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Haven't heard if he's lazy. But you compare him to Shaun Rogers, a player that numerous people were skeptical about before he signed with New Orleans after visiting here, and there's no question that 1)Rogers is going to age better than Franklin and 2)Rogers is worth more money than Franklin.

Rogers signed for one-year, $4 million. Franklin could reasonably expect to get 3/25 or something bigger. Point is, one player is going to get the kind of deal that the Redskins have always been guilty of giving out (one that can't be outperformed), and the other is almost certainly going to offer surplus value.

I thought that there were some health questions regarding Rogers. I know he was okay last season, but missed some time in 2009. Also, I wonder if Rogers wanted to be more of a 4-3 DT (hence the move to NO), since Cleveland moved him to a 3-4 DE last season.

I do believe Franklin will be expensive. I think at this point I'd rather have a veteran 3-4 NT that won't be too expensive and see how Bryant and the rookies we picked up develop. I guess Kris Jenkins is still out there, but he is even more of a question mark than Rogers is...so who knows. On the other hand, I would hate to go into this season with a patchwork NT, especially when we seem to have good DEs and two young/talented OLBs.

[Dirtbag59]

Scouts Inc has him ranked as the 10th best DT in the league tied with Casey Hampton. If thats the case I would love to have him.

Grade: 83 | Key

Comment: Franklin spent his first four years with the Baltimore Ravens as a backup who saw limited action but then found success after signing with the 49ers prior to the 2007 season. He has become a very effective run stopper in the middle as he plugs up the middle. He plays with excellent leverage and does a good job of using his hands to control and shed blockers. He lacks great lateral range and makes most of his lays in the box. He lacks the upfield speed and acceleration to pressure the pocket as a pass-rusher but can cave in the pocket with an effective bull rush at times.

[musicmaster45]

I still dont want Albert in the locker room if were trying for a culture change. Thats what the Kerrigan pick was and the whole draft for that matter. We almost exclusively went for guys who were hard workers and come to play. Trade him for a 4 or 5 round pick. it would make me so happy. Same with McNabb for that matter.

[CultBrennan59]

According to PFT CB Ike Taylor is high on the Eagles Radar, and Stephen Tullouch could be an option for us.

Also does anyone know if Nnamdi would fit our defense/why he really hasn't been linked to us?

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

According to PFT CB Ike Taylor is high on the Eagles Radar, and Stephen Tullouch could be an option for us.

Also does anyone know if Nnamdi would fit our defense/why he really hasn't been linked to us?

Kind of answered my question here

Ten free-agent deals that make too much sense - NFL - CBSSports.com Football

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

NFL: Teams most hurt, helped by salary-cap proposal - ESPN

Positive news indeed this potential off-season. Danny boy gets to blow some cash!!



Can't wait till the new CBA is finished so we can get to filling in some of our holes currently.


As a bonus, Dallas is getting screwed.

Columbo is history regardless of salary cap adjustments. Marion Barber will probably get his release as well. Thats why they drafted Tyron Smith and DeMarco Murray. And with the rookie salary pool all but a certainty, the dollars saved could be spread elsewhere.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Columbo is history regardless of salary cap adjustments. Marion Barber will probably get his release as well. Thats why they drafted Tyron Smith and DeMarco Murray. And with the rookie salary pool all but a certainty, the dollars saved could be spread elsewhere.

That's sad. Barber is a cowboy, but I always liked his tenacious style. Will miss seeing him w/dallas. I was hoping Landry would at least get to tacklie him by grabbing his dreads one good time!

[Defensewins]

Can someone explain this quote form the article:
"Snyder and Mike Shanahan will have to be creative in how they structure contracts, because the $120 million cap would give them only around $10 million of cap room. On the positive side, the Redskins' current payroll is $75.7 million, meaning Snyder would have to spend close to $45 million in cash to meet the potential minimum floor requirements. Imagine a system that forces Snyder to spend."

Do we have $10M to spend or $45M?
Sorry I did not go back and read 5 full pages of this thread to see if this was already discussed.
Brilliant on the part of Allen to free up space during an uncapped year (2010) so we can have extra spending money in 2011. This was the kind of planning we did not have under the rudderless Snyderatto FO....and yes I add Snyder to the equation in our former Cerratto/Snyder FO failure.

[Giantone]

Question,....does the cap room in question also include the "rookie salery cap" or is that a seperate amount of money?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Can someone explain this quote form the article:
"Snyder and Mike Shanahan will have to be creative in how they structure contracts, because the $120 million cap would give them only around $10 million of cap room. On the positive side, the Redskins' current payroll is $75.7 million, meaning Snyder would have to spend close to $45 million in cash to meet the potential minimum floor requirements. Imagine a system that forces Snyder to spend."

Do we have $10M to spend or $45M?
Sorry I did not go back and read 5 full pages of this thread to see if this was already discussed.
Brilliant on the part of Allen to free up space during an uncapped year (2010) so we can have extra spending money in 2011. This was the kind of planning we did not have under the rudderless Snyderatto FO....and yes I add Snyder to the equation in our former Cerratto/Snyder FO failure.

I think that Clayton is suggesting that there may be a cash requirement re: the salary floor that won't be satisfied by the $35 million of deadcap the Redskins will have. After accounting for 53 players on the roster and all of that deadcap, the Redskins probably have 10ish million to spend on a $120 million cap.

But to put it in perspective, the Redskins entire 2006 shopping spree: Adam Archuleta, Brandon Lloyd, Antwaan Randle El, Andre Carter, Christian Fauria, and Todd Collins took up about $10 million of cap room in 2006. But the Redskins SPENT a lot more than $10 million on those players in the fiscal year 2006. They spent at least $40 million on those six players.

[Dirtbag59]

Now the owners are messing things up.

Player sources reaffirmed a setback in talks occurred when owners last week went "retro" on the formula that will divide the estimated $9.3 billion in annual revenue. The players believed the two sides had reached an understanding on a simplified formula in which they would receive 48 percent of revenue, sources say owners reintroduced their previous formula by asking for $400 million to $500 million in expenses as credit off the top.

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Players calculate that under the owners' proposal, it would leave them with approximately with a 45 percent take on revenue, an "unacceptable" amount that one player source said "sets us back to March 11 ... before the lockout."

Greedy bastards. 45%? When the NHL pays 53% with guranteed contracts? They're lucky they got 48%. And whats the chance that concession prices and ticket prices continue to increase with this 45% share? Screw the owners.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Now the owners are messing things up.


Greedy bastards. 45%? When the NHL pays 53% with guranteed contracts? They're lucky they got 48%. And whats the chance that concession prices and ticket prices continue to increase with this 45% share? Screw the owners.

...but..but...that can't be true. It's those greedy players responsible for all this! Ask SB!!



Sources: Optimism waning, latest NFL talks trending 'backwards' - ESPN

Player sources said owners have reneged on a simplified formula that would have given players 48 percent of all revenue.

These assholes sound like politicians.

A management source said the owners have not reneged on any revenue split, claiming "it's a negotiation, which is always subject to change"