Landry to miss opener vs Giants

[skinsfaninok]

Landry is a top 10 safety and Atogwe is a top 20

[MTK]

How many times are we going to cherry pick that one play?

[Shadowbyte]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

How many times are we going to cherry pick that one play?

There isn't a single strong safety in the NFL who could of covered Desean Jackson on that play - both Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu would of got smoked too. Anyways, they need to start cherry picking about his heroic interception against Aaron Rogers that sealed the game for us

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

How many times are we going to cherry pick that one play?

I didn't mention any play. That picture just summed his coverage ability.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I didn't mention any play. That picture just summed his coverage ability.

That's pretty much the same thing as cherry picking. He has at times covered receivers well yet your pic does not represent that reality.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

That's pretty much the same thing as cherry picking. He has at times covered receivers well yet your pic does not represent that reality.

No it's not. THe year before he was horrible. People bitched and said he was playing out of position (FS) and that's why he was terrible(some truth to it). This past year, they were smart and at least played to his strength, but he still got beat and gave up big plays (especially on Rogers side of the field) from when he was supposed to pick up the zone coverage.

That's pretty much the whole idea of them going out and getting Atogwe to help out with the coverage issue. Personally, I think a big problem with LL is that he's a freelancer and doesn't have much discipline to his position. I think we just saw a 2 time pro-bowler just let go in New England because he couldn't play the position with discipline. Generally, safeties shouldn't be leading the league in tackles. That's something a linebacker does.

LL has the talent to be all-pro, lets get that fact established. However, he needs to have his head in the game. Not sure if he needs more film study, but I do recall Ray Lewis talking about how Ed Reed became the stud he did. He came into the league and studied film with Ray all the time (even over at Ray's house) and applied that knowledge on the field.

I don't care about his trash talking. I don't care if he poses. I do care if he's not playing up to ability.

[Bucket]

Yes.. Pick out one play and base that on his coverage play.

How many plays in a year do you think a Safety plays? How many coverages, or man coverages/zones do you think they are involved in?

So you can pick out 10-15 plays where Landry gets beat in a span of 3-4 years? That's 16 games, 60 or so pass plays, and let's even break it in half because it's not always on his side of the field.

I'm just saying.. It's kinda rediculous to pull out a persons bad plays and call him bad when you don't mention the good ones.

Yeah because we wont miss this guy in our new defensive scheme.

LaRon Landry: 2010 Week 5 vs Packers; Highlights...

[Swarley]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Generally, safeties shouldn't be leading the league in tackles. That's something a linebacker does.

When did he lead the league in tackles?


There are a number of safeties that get tackle numbers like Laron.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I didn't mention any play. That picture just summed his coverage ability.

Ok, a picture of that one play, same thing

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Ok, a picture of that one play, same thing

No, you chose that picture to represent what YOU wanted it to. Not the same thing. If I were going to use that "play", then I would have brought out the video (and more) to prove my points, which I have in the past. In fact, I removed the picture so you guys would pipe down about somebody pointing out "that one play" in your talking points.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No, you chose that picture to represent what YOU wanted it to. Not the same thing. If I were going to use that "play", then I would have brought out the video (and more) to prove my points, which I have in the past. In fact, I removed the picture so you guys would pipe down about somebody pointing out "that one play" in your talking points.

I don't even know how to respond other than...

[polywog]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

No, you chose that picture to represent what YOU wanted it to. Not the same thing. If I were going to use that "play", then I would have brought out the video (and more) to prove my points, which I have in the past. In fact, I removed the picture so you guys would pipe down about somebody pointing out "that one play" in your talking points.

Admit it NC....you hate LL! Furthermore, you only hate him because you sweat his six-pack!

[Lotus]

This thread is getting to be pointless. Haters are gonna hate no matter what reasoned argument is offered.

[Shadowbyte]

I have no problems with him missing some games early in the season. It's imperative that's he's playing and healthy during the second half of the season when we'll be fighting for a playoff spot.

[NC_Skins]

A shame people can't read. Nah, it's better to take something somebody said and twist it to something it's not to suit your point. Kudos on the reading comprehension failure.

1) never said he's bad, even though he was horrible in blanche's scheme.

2) compared him to Roy Williams which is pretty accurate. Hard hitter with poor coverage skills