McNabb, case study-coaching or talent at qb?

[EZG1]

I have to admit that I was fairly pleased when we acquire McNabb. With the a similar history to Elway (Unable to win "The Big Game"), I mistakenly thought that Shanahan could mold or modify McNabb's game to achieve positive results. Unfortunately my flawed deductive reasoning, for several reasons; (inability to accept change, poor offensive line play, lack of quality receivers, deterioration of athletic skills), was terribly wrong. That being said, I look at it as a expensive lesson learned. We appear to be moving in the right direction now, and additional mistakes will be made, but I have full confidence in our current administration's ability to recover from bad decisions and move forward!

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by EZG1

I have to admit that I was fairly pleased when we acquire McNabb. With the a similar history to Elway (Unable to win "The Big Game"), I mistakenly thought that Shanahan could mold or modify McNabb's game to achieve positive results. Unfortunately my flawed deductive reasoning, for several reasons; (inability to accept change, poor offensive line play, lack of quality receivers, deterioration of athletic skills), was terribly wrong. That being said, I look at it as a expensive lesson learned. We appear to be moving in the right direction now, and additional mistakes will be made, but I have full confidence in our current administration's ability to recover from bad decisions and move forward!

Hell,I think just about everyone was excited as hell that we got Mcnabb,especially after he looked so good in the Houston game

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Yes, but he will still loose 16 fumbles.

Ah good point.

[NLC1054]

You know, people bring up the receivers we had last year a lot...

I was recounting last year how McNabb struggled finishing games. One of the most maligned guys on the team last season was Joey Galloway. But when I thought about it, there were so many times when McNabb sold Galloway out.

Week 2, Joey is wide open, McNabb overthrows him in the end zone, no touchdown on what would've iced the game for the team. Week 4, Galloway's wide open again, streaking towards the end zone, but McNabb throws an bizrre interception right to an Eagles player. Like, right to him. Galloway runs wide open on the right, and McNabb throws left right to an Eagle.

Versus Indy, Galloway has a step on his man, McNabb doesn't put it far enough out in front of Joey, picked off. Titans game, Joey comes open for the first down in the red zone, McNabb comes back to him so late that Galloway is literally waving his arms around screaming "I'M OPEN", only by time McNabb gets the message, the DB catch on, picked off.

Galloway could've easily had three touchdowns, all of them game sealing, but McNabb completely sold him out, and the blame falls on Joey.

And let's not forget the deep passes to Armstrong that should've been touchdowns, and you could throw Fred Davis in there too, since Davis had to come back to some of those.

Hindsight really is 20/20...

[skins89moss]

I still think we should have just rode with Jason in Shanny's first season to see if he could play better. McNabb 1 season in DC giving up a 2nd and 4th rd pick. That was a big F-Up so it was better to let him go than bring him back for a 2nd season. We got out of his crazy contract and rec'd a late rd pick for McNasty. Glad he is not our QB problem.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skins89moss

I still think we should have just rode with Jason in Shanny's first season to see if he could play better. McNabb 1 season in DC giving up a 2nd and 4th rd pick. That was a big F-Up so it was better to let him go than bring him back for a 2nd season. We got out of his crazy contract and rec'd a late rd pick for McNasty. Glad he is not our QB problem.

Or play all of Rex last season. Given how good of a job Shanny did with our second rounder this year, I think he could have gotten an impact player last year with the second rounder.

[12thMan]

Ruhskins, I'd add Kurt Warner and Trent Green to the listsof modern day QBs who have excelled in different systems.

[GTripp0012]

Reid is good with QBs, but he doesn't actually go out there and play the game. Part of being good with QBs is showing the ability to pick the right ones. You can't be good at coaching up a position with no aptitude for finding the right guys.

McNabb was always overrated nationally, and the trade for him was a total disaster even at the time it was made, but overrated and not useful are two different things. Let's try not to totally re-write history here. McNabb became part of a very good system. He wasn't just there, he became an integral part of what they did. They didn't consistently throw 50 times a game with someone they were trying to hide.

They're a completely different offense now, and ditching McNabb was necessary to reach their offensive potential, but that doesn't make Donovan chopped liver. He was a very unique player for the passing era he played in.

But that era is over.

[SolidSnake84]

Yes I agree with all post above. McNabb is done and I think we saw signs of it last season but common sense told us to see if he could work through it.

I don't believe he will stay with Minnesota next year as a backup, like Matty said, Donovan might have lost the passion for the game, that makes it hard for a guy to stick around, not like other backups who still love football and are happy to help out in any capacity...