Redskins vs Rams Postgame Thread

[calia]

Originally Posted by 44 goes 50 gut

*shrug* well I disagree, probably take this aspect of the discussion up in the newly posted secondary thread so I don't derail here.

I reluctantly agree with Matty (as much as I liked blaming Vinny for everything, including global warming, and felt justified in doing so). Too many examples of coaches and GMs making turnarounds with little depth. Look at SF. Heck, I will bet the Rams finish near .500 this year. We have more talent on the roster than was displayed yesterday, and that is significantly on the coaching staff. I was "watching" the game on NFL.com, and I was struck by how many times with 3rd and 6, we'd get 5 yards. We had a LOT of 4th and 1 punts yesterday, and that's on Kyle and Mike. The special teams' debacles are too frequent, and that's on Danny. Our secondary was eaten alive -- that is on Raheem and Haslett (how we couldn't generate more pressure is beyond me). They may not be a strong unit, but the Rams have a very good QB and basically 1 receiver, and we could do nothing to stop them.

To be clear, there are individual failures aplenty to point out as well -- Morgan's dumb penalty, Robinson's drop; the list isn't short. And the refs did not distinguish themselves.

But the bottom line is that we've got an electrifying new QB who played reasonably well, but he needs folks (other than London "Mr. Consistency" Fletcher) around him to step up. And no one did yesterday. In his press conference, Griffin lamented the pick. Sure it wasn't a great pass, but he ran for 2 TDs and threw for the 3rd (and the other one was a defensive score). But we should still be competitive even if Griffin throws the occasional pick (which he will do).

We just have to play with more heart -- especially on D. If we can pick up a W against Cincy, that will be a nice way to bounce back from a disappointing loss.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by 44 goes 50 gut

But the proof is just right there plain as the nose on your face... The secondary is thin as hell and the starters are mostly pretty bad, meanwhile they have had basically zero real chance to upgrade the starters (considering they've addressed so many other areas of the team) and are still forced to employ guys like Hall and Doughty.

3 offseasons is an eternity to fans, but this isn't Madden franchise mode.

So you are blaming talent level for that horrendous showing Sunday? You mean the same talent level that kept Brees high scoring offense in check for most of last week?

The defense was horrible for a few reasons but most of it didn't have anything to do with the talent level. The problem is that the game plan sucked defensively. You can't run a zone defense without getting pressure on the QB. It's simply not going to happen. Even with Carriker and Orakpo out, that DL should have been taking advantage of a Rams OL that was out 3 starters. They didn't, and it allowed Bradford to eat up our secondary. ANY QB in the league would have torched us Sunday with that type of time behind center. Adjustments should have been made a lot sooner, but they weren't it we suffered greatly because of it. There is a reason why Haslett is on the hot seat, and it's not because the talent level.

Mind you, we were down 2 starting safeties as well. As much as I can't stand Vinny, we can no longer blame him for the outcomes of the game. I do however think that he left Mike with a bigger mess than what people realize though.

[skinsfan69]

I think what happens is everyone thinks we're better than we are after the big win last week. This is still not a playoff team. We have some holes and they were exposed yesterday.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I think what happens is everyone thinks we're better than we are after the big win last week. This is still not a playoff team. We have some holes and they were exposed yesterday.

yes, like our horrible DB play, 8-8 is still my expectations

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

yes, like our horrible DB play, 8-8 is still my expectations

I would like to see more Crawford less Griffin.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

I would like to see more Crawford less Griffin.

CG is so bad

[hail_2_da_skins]

I was there at the game. Nothing is more frustrating is to listen to a bunch of Fake Rams fans, yelling and screaming like they won the Superbowl after the Redskins gave them a Christmas present. Where was the defense? Receivers were wide open and the tackling sucked. Steven Jackson was benched and they let a second and third string back run all over them. Bradford had all day and delivered. I think the offense operated fairly well in a hostile environment. It is very loud and intimidating in the dome. But the two biggest mistakes was the blocked punt and Josh Morgan dumb-ass play. The punter is too slow with his delivery. He will get blocked again. I would be looking for another punter. I don't know how you punish Josh Morgan. That dumb-ass play was uncalled for. The game was totally out of hand and Roger G. needs to bring back the regular refs ASAP. The Rams knew they could get under the Redskins chin and were pushing their buttons all day. I lot of the crap was happening during TV timeouts and I don't know if you guys saw that watching TV. 9 times out of 10, the Rams were the instigators.

[CrustyRedskin]

I seen him throwing to wide open receivers all day. Yeah that was pure greatness.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

I seen him throwing to wide open receivers all day. Yeah that was pure greatness.

well that's what he's paid to do. hit the open guy.

[ashvirtually]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

I seen him throwing to wide open receivers all day. Yeah that was pure greatness.

Yeah, he carved up the secondary like a Thanksgiving turkey, and we never adjusted to it.

Was he not supposed to do that? :confused-

[CrustyRedskin]

I just think it was more poor defensive game planning and adjustments than Bradfords qb ability.

[44 goes 50 gut]

Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

I just think it was more poor defensive game planning and adjustments than Bradfords qb ability.

I think football is a lot less simple than "if my team plays better they will win every game because everyone else sucks". Certainly not getting to him, and our secondary being very weak all played a hand in the loss. But they pay the other players too.

Look if you don't know what you're looking at maybe read up on the dude a little. His arm is very good, his accuracy is absolutely phenominal Drew Brees like, his release is quick like Peyton Manning quick, he's got okay pocket precence, and better than average mobility, he had a great rookie season, and a bad sophomore slump (with no one at all to throw to).

The real problem here is that Skins fans expect the Rams to be basement dwellers, and secretly think the Skins are playoff bound after the Saints game (who BTW are just not the same Saints, judging by their first two games)... Not knowing how much improved the Rams are and how much better coached, some of you feel like you just watched an "upset" of a bad team full of scrubs beating a good team...

What actually happened was a team with around the same amount of talent as the Skins, coming off a last moment loss they should have won, played a team that was coming off an emotional high of winning a game no one gave them a chance of winning... A close game ensued, and the Skins dropped one too many passes, and the Rams made one too many plays.

[CultBrennan59]

This will cheer everyone up!

Recapping the Redskins Loss to Rams With Seinfeld Animated Gifs - Hogs Haven

[MTK]

Bradford is no scrub that's for sure. Gotta give him credit he got the job done.

[mredskins]

Mike Pereira, the ref guy for the league, showed how when Fisher challenged the Stephen Jackson play that not only was the red flag a 15 yard penalty, since the challenge flag was thrown before the challenge was initiated upstairs the challenge is then disallowed and the call on the field must stand. The call was fumble and we got the ball. Instead the Rams kept the ball and kicked the field goal... we lost by 3 points...