Should Mike Shanahan be fired?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

"I broke my finger"
"Take off the whole arm!"

If 3-5 is a broken finger than, never mind. Just never mind.


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[The Goat]

Wow, just wow.

Up to today's game I would have said let Mike finish the season, because it is really tough on a locker room to change HCs mid-season. But today, this franchise is at the same low-point it experienced with Zorn. The "moment" came when we sent RGIII out for a pass today, against arguably the nastiest defense in football. We are sooooooo lucky RG3 didn't sustain a concussion, and at this moment I'm sure Snyder is debating whether he needs to "protect" is prized investment.

But like every other game since the season opener, it's not just about one play. The play-calling/play-design was an embarrassment to pro football from the very first series, which really set the tone for the rest of the game btw. This isn't a serious football team, period.

Mike Shanahan is more responsible for his team's failure than any current NFL coach. This was also true last year btw, when we saw a few HCs get canned mid-season. Mike destroyed a very competitive, near elite, defense, and he turned the offense over to Jim Zorn aka Kyle Shanahan.

By the end of the season most of you will want Mike gone, but there's no reason to wait that long. He's bringing embarrassment on the franchise. Time to move on....

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Wow, just wow.

Up to today's game I would have said let Mike finish the season, because it is really tough on a locker room to change HCs mid-season. But today, this franchise is at the same low-point it experienced with Zorn. The "moment" came when we sent RGIII out for a pass today, against arguably the nastiest defense in football. We are sooooooo lucky RG3 didn't sustain a concussion, and at this moment I'm sure Snyder is debating whether he needs to "protect" is prized investment.

But like every other game since the season opener, it's not just about one play. The play-calling/play-design was an embarrassment to pro football from the very first series, which really set the tone for the rest of the game btw. This isn't a serious football team, period.

Mike Shanahan is more responsible for his team's failure than any current NFL coach. This was also true last year btw, when we saw a few HCs get canned mid-season. Mike destroyed a very competitive, near elite, defense, and he turned the offense over to Jim Zorn aka Kyle Shanahan.

By the end of the season most of you will want Mike gone, but there's no reason to wait that long. He's bringing embarrassment on the franchise. Time to move on....

You mention the locker room, which makes me wonder...

How do you all think locker room morale is?

With RG3 back there, I think the locker room might be good. Without him, I think chaos.

I'm not saying that the guys are throwing fists back there, but I can't imagine that it's not downright dreary back there some Sundays.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

You mention the locker room, which makes me wonder...

How do you all think locker room morale is?

With RG3 back there, I think the locker room might be good. Without him, I think chaos.

I'm not saying that the guys are throwing fists back there, but I can't imagine that it's not downright dreary back there some Sundays.

I think you probably nailed it.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Wow, just wow.

Up to today's game I would have said let Mike finish the season, because it is really tough on a locker room to change HCs mid-season. But today, this franchise is at the same low-point it experienced with Zorn. The "moment" came when we sent RGIII out for a pass today, against arguably the nastiest defense in football. We are sooooooo lucky RG3 didn't sustain a concussion, and at this moment I'm sure Snyder is debating whether he needs to "protect" is prized investment.

But like every other game since the season opener, it's not just about one play. The play-calling/play-design was an embarrassment to pro football from the very first series, which really set the tone for the rest of the game btw. This isn't a serious football team, period.

Mike Shanahan is more responsible for his team's failure than any current NFL coach. This was also true last year btw, when we saw a few HCs get canned mid-season. Mike destroyed a very competitive, near elite, defense, and he turned the offense over to Jim Zorn aka Kyle Shanahan.

By the end of the season most of you will want Mike gone, but there's no reason to wait that long. He's bringing embarrassment on the franchise. Time to move on....

He just needs two more years to figure it out Goat. Why the long face? Lol.


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[44ever]

Originally Posted by punch it in

He just needs two more years to figure it out Goat. Why the long face? Lol.


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It's been 2 more years for 20 years now... Ahhh, a new sig idea...

[NC_Skins]

Yeah, let's fire him and hire Jeff Fischer.


New England Patriots vs. St. Louis Rams - Box Score - October 28, 2012 - ESPN



Doing a hell of a job in St. Louis. I mean his record is so much better than Shanahan's and he's definitely not getting waxed at home either.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Yeah, let's fire him and hire Jeff Fischer.


New England Patriots vs. St. Louis Rams - Box Score - October 28, 2012 - ESPN



Doing a hell of a job in St. Louis. I mean his record is so much better than Shanahan's and he's definitely not getting waxed at home either.

Difference being the Rams don't have the money to pay Fisher and another coach, but we do, and that should be a deciding factor in who coaches each team next year.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Difference being the Rams don't have the money to pay Fisher and another coach, but we do, and that should be a deciding factor in who coaches each team next year.

Wait, you mean to tell me that a man (Stan Kroenke) with a net worth of 3.2 billion can't afford to pay 2 coaches, but Dan Snyder can?.....lol



Wrong.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Wait, you mean to tell me that a man (Stan Kroenke) with a net worth of 3.2 billion can't afford to pay 2 coaches, but Dan Snyder can?.....lol



Wrong.

Well, he'd be doing it at a significant personal financial loss.

But if your point is he could afford it, then yes, yes he could.

[redskins5044]

Ok so who would you like them to hire?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by redskins5044

Ok so who would you like them to hire?

Beyond the scope of this thread. I would have liked them to hire Jim Schwartz, for the record.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Deivybaby

Yes but towards next season. We have a good offense but look at our situation and his history. His D been an outrage his fa this year and last was awful we have a cap issue.we have rg3 and im sure with the moneu we have we can hire a pretty good OC but we need a real vip FO GM to help us.
We wont make the playoff but id only kwep him because of the offebse so he beeds to sgow next year how to improve thia D much better.

Ill wait i dont like shanny but the O is doing better.

This.
L to the O to the L.


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[GTripp0012]

Devil's advocate on the "fire Haslett" quick fix:

That's pretty much what happened towards the end of his days in Denver, right? Every year, some defensive coordinator took the fall. One year, the figurehead GM (Sundquist) took the fall. Eventually, Pat Bowlen had to step in.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Devil's advocate on the "fire Haslett" quick fix:

That's pretty much what happened towards the end of his days in Denver, right? Every year, some defensive coordinator took the fall. One year, the figurehead GM (Sundquist) took the fall. Eventually, Pat Bowlen had to step in.

Right, so just take care of the real problem up front, and start your search for a new HC tomorrow, right?