Around the NFL Week 7

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Lets be real here. If Goat wasn't on this site, it would be a lot more dull and a lot less humor.

How would anybody know? He's largely been....Shunned!
Mere blocking wasn't gettin' it done.......

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Lets be real here. If Goat wasn't on this site, it would be a lot more dull and a lot less humor.

i disagree.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

i disagree.

I agree with your disagreement.

[CultBrennan59]

Eh, Agree to disagree.

Anyway Sherman just got whacked by Fitzgerald.

[Chico23231]

Russel Wilson keeps winning.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Russel Wilson keeps winning.

yeah its just him out there by himself , poor guy has no help at all

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Russel Wilson keeps winning.

18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.

The only positive part is 3 td passes,is that all? Why some people dont want to give Wilson credit is beyond me.Its like if you give Wilson credit your somehow cutting down RG3.And then you want to bring up his fumbling when RG3 leads the league in fumbles? Unreal

If RG3 had the exact same stat line Wilson did in the game against Dallas and we beat Dallas 34-22 and someone came on the forum and said the only positive stat he had was 3 td passes what do you think the reaction would be? I bet youd be one of the first people to call that person an idiot

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

The only positive part is 3 td passes,is that all? Why some people dont want to give Wilson credit is beyond me.Its like if you give Wilson credit your somehow cutting down RG3.And then you want to bring up his fumbling when RG3 leads the league in fumbles? Unreal

If RG3 had the exact same stat line Wilson did in the game against Dallas and we beat Dallas 34-22 and someone came on the forum and said the only positive stat he had was 3 td passes what do you think the reaction would be? I bet youd be one of the first people to call that person an idiot

No, completing barely half of his passes and two turnovers wouldn't impress me by RGIII or anyone.

Griff's been throwing for 300 yards weekly this season despite his accuracy issues, so if he came out with a 123, 142 or even a 235-yard night, they'd all be letdowns.

Here's the difference between the two QBs: Griffin is the leader of this offense. Everything runs through him and depends on him. Wilson is more of, to use the overused term, a game manager.

Take a look at these game performances and tell be Wilson is the key to their offensive success:


@ 25 /33 320 yds 75.8%
CAR

vs 8 /19 142 yds 42.1%
SF

vs 14 /21 202 yds 66.7%
JAC

@ 12 /23 123 yds 52.2%
HOU

@ 15 /31 210 yds 48.4%
IND

vs 23 /31 257 yds 74.2%
TEN

@ 18 /29 235 yds 62.1%
ARI


He seems to be a Jay Cutler-like QB who will have a good game or a bad game, nothing in between. His team is carrying him. He's really only had 2 solid games passing the ball this year. When your QB can pass below 50% and for less than 150 yards almost every other game and you're still winning, you know you have a solid team around that QB.



His defense scores a lot and they usually play with the lead, so they can run the ball all game long. If he had to try to come back every week with his arm, I don't think he'd have as much success.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

No, completing barely half of his passes and two turnovers wouldn't impress me by RGIII or anyone.

Griff's been throwing for 300 yards weekly this season despite his accuracy issues, so if he came out with a 123, 142 or even a 235-yard night, they'd all be letdowns.

Here's the difference between the two QBs: Griffin is the leader of this offense. Everything runs through him and depends on him. Wilson is more of, to use the overused term, a game manager.

Take a look at these game performances and tell be Wilson is the key to their offensive success:


@ 25 /33 320 yds 75.8%
CAR

vs 8 /19 142 yds 42.1%
SF

vs 14 /21 202 yds 66.7%
JAC

@ 12 /23 123 yds 52.2%
HOU

@ 15 /31 210 yds 48.4%
IND

vs 23 /31 257 yds 74.2%
TEN

@ 18 /29 235 yds 62.1%
ARI


He seems to be a Jay Cutler-like QB who will have a good game or a bad game, nothing in between. His team is carrying him. He's really only had 2 solid games passing the ball this year. When your QB can pass below 50% and for less than 150 yards almost every other game and you're still winning, you know you have a solid team around that QB.



His defense scores a lot and they usually play with the lead, so they can run the ball all game long. If he had to try to come back every week with his arm, I don't think he'd have as much success.

Griffins 300 yard games dont count for shit,most of it was garbage time.If you want to bring up stats how about the qbr rating of the two.Wilson is 10th in the league at 60.5-RG3 is 32 out 0f 36 at 30.9.But I dont want to make this about Griffin Vs Wilson.

I watched last nights game and I watched the Houston game,I am very impressed with this kid,guess we are not seeing the same things and seems we will never agree on this subject

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

No, completing barely half of his passes and two turnovers wouldn't impress me by RGIII or anyone.

Griff's been throwing for 300 yards weekly this season despite his accuracy issues, so if he came out with a 123, 142 or even a 235-yard night, they'd all be letdowns.

Here's the difference between the two QBs: Griffin is the leader of this offense. Everything runs through him and depends on him. Wilson is more of, to use the overused term, a game manager.

Take a look at these game performances and tell be Wilson is the key to their offensive success:


@ 25 /33 320 yds 75.8%
CAR

vs 8 /19 142 yds 42.1%
SF

vs 14 /21 202 yds 66.7%
JAC

@ 12 /23 123 yds 52.2%
HOU

@ 15 /31 210 yds 48.4%
IND

vs 23 /31 257 yds 74.2%
TEN

@ 18 /29 235 yds 62.1%
ARI


He seems to be a Jay Cutler-like QB who will have a good game or a bad game, nothing in between. His team is carrying him. He's really only had 2 solid games passing the ball this year. When your QB can pass below 50% and for less than 150 yards almost every other game and you're still winning, you know you have a solid team around that QB.



His defense scores a lot and they usually play with the lead, so they can run the ball all game long. If he had to try to come back every week with his arm, I don't think he'd have as much success.

See...this is a classic case of looking at everything with your RG3 glasses on....lol.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.

Jesus Christ finally someone that agres with me!!

Thank u

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.

Are you out of your mind? You're talking about one of the best teams in NFL history, with a few HOF'ers and borderline HOF players.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Are you out of your mind? You're talking about one of the best teams in NFL history, with a few HOF'ers and borderline HOF players.

That was the BEST team of all time.

If Robert had the #1-ranked defense in the league...paired with the offense we're capable of from last year, we'd dominate.

Has any team ever had the #1 offense AND defense at the same time? Maybe the '91 Skins?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

18/29, 62% completion rate, 235 yards, ran for 29 yards and lost 2 fumbles. The only positive part of his stat line was the 3 TD passes.

This season, 4 games with less than 210 yards passing, has been under 50% completion twice this season. He's also lost 5 of his 8 fumbles.

They're not winning because of him. His stats are mediocre. He's just along for the ride.

Their success is all Lynch and the defense...mainly the defense.

When Griffin irons out his accuracy issue, which has never been an issue for him before so everything points to it being temporary, he'll blow Wilson out of the water stat-wise and talent-wise.


Give Robert that defense and we'd rival the 1991 Redskins in dominance.



I like Wilson as a person off the field, classy kid when he's speaking honestly and not tossing out the tired football cliches in press conferences. However, he's really, REALLY over-hyped. ESPN has a lot to do with that. They can turn a mediocre QB like Tebow or average one like Wilson into a celebrity just by talking about him every 5 minutes. Colin Kaepernick is in the same spot, and ironically, his team wins the same way, running and defense. He's also just along for the ride.

Why is it that everytime Wilson is mentioned around here it's..."well RG3 can do what he does and do it better!".. it's so annoying.

I assume that most of you have high football IQ's and can watch a game w/out your RG3 glasses on...lol. What makes Wilson (and RG3) unique is that they can impact the game w/out having Aaron Rogers stats. Griff did this a ton last year where he only threw for 200 yards or so. Wilson does the same thing. He plays on a team with a better defense, but IMO we have better talent at TE and WR than they do. Wilson just makes plays and is playing better than RG3 this year. It doesn't mean he's better, right now he is...he threw some guys open last night. I haven't seen RG3 do that all year. It is what it is...hopefully RG3 will get more comfortable as the year goes on....we all want RG3 to be great, right now he's just an average NFL QB.