Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins

skinsfan69 · 01-09-2014, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I just don't get the Haslett deal

I don't either. It's kind of reminding me of the Zorn hire, where the assistants were pretty much picked for the HC. I really hope that Gruden makes the decision, or holds the power of who he wants on his staff.

Paintrain · 01-09-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I don't either. It's kind of reminding me of the Zorn hire, where the assistants were pretty much picked for the HC. I really hope that Gruden makes the decision, or holds the power of who he wants on his staff.

I think the big difference is that Zorn was completely overmatched in any role above position coach. Also, those were Cerrato/Snyder decisions independent of the HC search. Gruden has relationships with all of these guys already so the 'conversations' may have been to hold these guys around until after the process so he could decide if he wanted them around as well.

Lotus · 01-09-2014, 10:22 AM

Don't forget that Haz was Gruden's boss with the Tuskers. The choice to retain Haz may have more to do with JG than with Snyder.

Chico23231 · 01-09-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Don't forget that Haz was Gruden's boss with the Tuskers. The choice to retain Haz may have more to do with JG than with Snyder.

Good point, still just dont like it.

So is it official back to the 4-3?

Chief X_Phackter · 01-09-2014, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

Don't forget that Haz was Gruden's boss with the Tuskers. The choice to retain Haz may have more to do with JG than with Snyder.

Let us hope that is the case. It is what I am leaning towards...

Glasgow Celtic · 01-09-2014, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hijinx

That would be saying a lot. Or you don't remember Spurrier and Zorn.

Beat me to it

diehardskin2982 · 01-09-2014, 10:12 AM

I hope we do a hybrid defense that changes between 4-3 and 3-4 but its base scheme is a tampa-2

Lotus · 01-09-2014, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

I hope we do a hybrid defense that changes between 4-3 and 3-4 but its base scheme is a tampa-2

Hopefully that's the idea behind keeping Haslett - same DC but different scheme.

MTK · 01-09-2014, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by cdskins26

Not to mention given his personnel I doubt buddy Ryan could have coached them into a top 10 defense. I think it would be in our best interest to go back to the 4-3, and if they think haslett can be the guy to build that I'd be willing to give it a shot

Yeah secondary especially was always a joke under Shanny. Talent is key.

skinsfaninok · 01-09-2014, 10:16 AM

Lol a month ago 99% of people wanted JH fired, now it was shannys fault. Smh love the blindness folks. Dude has never been a good DC for the redskins. He's been here 4 years now and its sos every yr. O well hope this is a good hire but I get the feeling it was a buddy helping a buddy and it was the plan all along.

Lotus · 01-09-2014, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Lol a month ago 99% of people wanted JH fired, now it was shannys fault. Smh love the blindness folks. Dude has never been a good DC for the redskins. He's been here 4 years now and its sos every yr. O well hope this is a good hire but I get the feeling it was a buddy helping a buddy and it was the plan all along.

I am with you. I can't understand why we kept Haz. But hopefully there is a better explanation than "It was Shanahan's fault."

Chico23231 · 01-09-2014, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Lol a month ago 99% of people wanted JH fired, now it was shannys fault. Smh love the blindness folks. Dude has never been a good DC for the redskins. He's been here 4 years now and its sos every yr. O well hope this is a good hire but I get the feeling it was a buddy helping a buddy and it was the plan all along.

agree. I personally dont care if we go 4-3 or 3-4, rather see someone else run it even if its Morris. I think the Haz carry over has Danny hands all over it, dont like it.

skinsfan69 · 01-09-2014, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Lol a month ago 99% of people wanted JH fired, now it was shannys fault. Smh love the blindness folks. Dude has never been a good DC for the redskins. He's been here 4 years now and its sos every yr. O well hope this is a good hire but I get the feeling it was a buddy helping a buddy and it was the plan all along.

So true. Going 3-13 was 100% on Shanahan. lol.

Ruhskins · 01-09-2014, 10:16 AM

Interesting tidbit:
David Elfin ‏@davidelfin 4m
A year ago today, @RGIII was going under the knife. Today he gets a new coach.

I think personnel choices will be crucial to the defense regardless of who's DC. We need a starting caliber ILB and a consistent FS. I would love to see us go back to the 4-3.

KI Skins Fan · 01-09-2014, 10:20 AM

Jay Gruden is clearly a Bruce Allen hire.

Someone mentioned Haslett as Asst. HC. and Raheem as DC. I'd have no problem with that. To have Haslett serve as a mentor and advisor to the young HC makes a lot of sense to me.

I hope that Gruden has a proper appreciation of the importance of Special Teams. We need immediate improvement in that area.

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01-09-2014, 10:22 AM	#3
Lotus Fire Bruce NOW Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Hattiesburg, MS Posts: 11,434	Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins Don't forget that Haz was Gruden's boss with the Tuskers. The choice to retain Haz may have more to do with JG than with Snyder. __________________ Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250) Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350) Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444) Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430) We won more with Vinny

01-09-2014, 10:12 AM	#7
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins I hope we do a hybrid defense that changes between 4-3 and 3-4 but its base scheme is a tampa-2 __________________ That got ugly fast

01-09-2014, 10:16 AM	#10
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Lol a month ago 99% of people wanted JH fired, now it was shannys fault. Smh love the blindness folks. Dude has never been a good DC for the redskins. He's been here 4 years now and its sos every yr. O well hope this is a good hire but I get the feeling it was a buddy helping a buddy and it was the plan all along. __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

01-09-2014, 10:16 AM	#14
Ruhskins Living Legend Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 22,379	Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins Interesting tidbit: David Elfin ‏@davidelfin 4m A year ago today, @RGIII was going under the knife. Today he gets a new coach. I think personnel choices will be crucial to the defense regardless of who's DC. We need a starting caliber ILB and a consistent FS. I would love to see us go back to the 4-3. __________________ R.I.P. #21

01-09-2014, 10:20 AM	#15
KI Skins Fan Pro Bowl Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jacksonville, Forida Posts: 6,412	Re: Jay Gruden hired as head coach of the Redskins Jay Gruden is clearly a Bruce Allen hire. Someone mentioned Haslett as Asst. HC. and Raheem as DC. I'd have no problem with that. To have Haslett serve as a mentor and advisor to the young HC makes a lot of sense to me. I hope that Gruden has a proper appreciation of the importance of Special Teams. We need immediate improvement in that area. __________________ I'm a big Caitlin Clark fan!

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