Griffin Out For Undetermined Time, It's Cousins Time

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oh i missed that post. gross

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I won't either.

In fact, I'm expecting it.

The good news is both quarterbacks and gruden handled the press flawlessly. Griffin even went on twitter and gave support to the team that night.

If come week 13 or 14 giffin is healthy and cousins is playing lights out and we're running away with the division and Gruden has to seriously think about who's going to be starting... well, I think that's a good problem to have

[saden1]

Question, assuming RG3 is healthy again what is his trade value?

[irish]

Originally Posted by saden1

Question, assuming RG3 is healthy again what is his trade value?

Minimal to none.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by irish

Minimal to none.

I would think a franchise QB would have more value than minimal to none. I bet when the season is all said and done Cousins would have more trading value than RG3 and the smart folks at Redskins park will be apt to trade Cousins instead of cutting their losses with RG3.

Commitment bias is a hell of a drug.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by saden1

I would think a franchise QB would have more value than minimal to none. I bet when the season is all said and done Cousins would have more trading value than RG3 and the smart folks at Redskins park will be apt to trade Cousins instead of cutting their losses with RG3.

Commitment bias is a hell of a drug.

The Seahawks are a nice team.

[irish]

Originally Posted by saden1

I would think a franchise QB would have more value than minimal to none. I bet when the season is all said and done Cousins would have more trading value than RG3 and the smart folks at Redskins park will be apt to trade Cousins instead of cutting their losses with RG3.

Commitment bias is a hell of a drug.

At this point RG is not a franchise QB.

[WillH]

Originally Posted by saden1

I would think a franchise QB would have more value than minimal to none. I bet when the season is all said and done Cousins would have more trading value than RG3 and the smart folks at Redskins park will be apt to trade Cousins instead of cutting their losses with RG3.

Commitment bias is a hell of a drug.

Actually, this is one of your better posts. It is also the complete opposite of what. I was saying earlier in the thread. I respect the commitment bias argument, but I don't think we can definitively say that going with Cousins is the better course of action, even if he plays very very well. Also, I think the advantage of staying with RG3 is that (provided Cousins has a good to great season) we can trade Cousins and still draft a backup plan for Griffin. We will not have that option of we cut our losses with Griffin.

[Ghost of George Allen]

Originally Posted by saden1

I would think a franchise QB would have more value than minimal to none. I bet when the season is all said and done Cousins would have more trading value than RG3 and the smart folks at Redskins park will be apt to trade Cousins instead of cutting their losses with RG3.

Commitment bias is a hell of a drug.

You don't trade Cousins at all, unless he totally blows his stint as the starter!!!!!! RG III gets hurt one more time nobody is going to make a deal for him, they will simply wait for him to be released once his contract is up. If they rush Robert in this season, I am willing to bet he goes down again in 2014. And if he goes down again in 2015, his value is nil. You need a guy that can play QB. Do you really want to go through this again, with needing to acquire a new backup as well? My bet is Kirk will do great against our weaker opponents and be exposed somewhat against the better out of division teams in the NFC. Right now though I think with the exception of San Fran the whole conference isn't all that. Seattle didn't look all that great this past Sunday. You need to keep an experienced player regardless. Can't build a winner with dumping all of your QBs with some experience. This saga isn't going to play out til 2015. Skins would be moronic to get rid of Cousins and keep RG III only to see him go down again, and realize they don't have one decent QB that can stay healthy.

[Gary84Clark]

Originally Posted by Ghost of George Allen

You don't trade Cousins at all, unless he totally blows his stint as the starter!!!!!! RG III gets hurt one more time nobody is going to make a deal for him, they will simply wait for him to be released once his contract is up. If they rush Robert in this season, I am willing to bet he goes down again in 2014. And if he goes down again in 2015, his value is nil. You need a guy that can play QB. Do you really want to go through this again, with needing to acquire a new backup as well? My bet is Kirk will do great against our weaker opponents and be exposed somewhat against the better out of division teams in the NFC. Right now though I think with the exception of San Fran the whole conference isn't all that. Seattle didn't look all that great this past Sunday. You need to keep an experienced player regardless. Can't build a winner with dumping all of your QBs with some experience. This saga isn't going to play out til 2015. Skins would be moronic to get rid of Cousins and keep RG III only to see him go down again, and realize they don't have one decent QB that can stay healthy.

If Cousins stinks we keep him sign him for cheap , if he excels we get picks. Cousins is a basic pocket passer, similar to Colt. Pure pocket passers like Ryan have not been doing too good, they throw a lot of picks. There is a lot of football left. Let's see what Cousins does next week.

[HailGreen28]

I don't get the assumption that Cousins had hit his ceiling. Has Griffin hit his ceiling? RG3 hasn't played better since the beginning of the playoff game vs. Seattle a year and a half ago.

[irish]

Originally Posted by HailGreen28

I don't get the assumption that Cousins had hit his ceiling. Has Griffin hit his ceiling? RG3 hasn't played better since the beginning of the playoff game vs. Seattle a year and a half ago.

To me the only advantage (and its a big one) RG3 has over KC is his ability to scramble and run. Now I'm not so sure how much that can be counted on.

I think KC can be a solid NFL QB. Not an elite but a solid starter. I dont think the Skins can trade KC because they definitely need a solid backup because RG3 does not appear to be very durable.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by irish

To me the only advantage (and its a big one) RG3 has over KC is his ability to scramble and run. Now I'm not so sure how much that can be counted on.

I think KC can be a solid NFL QB. Not an elite but a solid starter. I dont think the Skins can trade KC because they definitely need a solid backup because RG3 does not appear to be very durable.

I would give the advantage in arm strength to RGIII, as well.

Cousins lucked out when Jay Gruden was hired because Gruden's preferred offense is a very good fit for him. That should help Kirk to succeed.

[irish]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

I would give the advantage in arm strength to RGIII, as well.

Cousins lucked out when Jay Gruden was hired because Gruden's preferred offense is a very good fit for him. That should help Kirk to succeed.

Hard to tell about arm strength (Djax had to wait for that bomb to get to him) but if he does have an advantage in arm strength its not enough to really matter.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by irish

Hard to tell about arm strength (Djax had to wait for that bomb to get to him) but if he does have an advantage in arm strength its not enough to really matter.

The bomb that DJax waited for traveled 60 yards in the air. The issue there was timing, not arm strength.