Is Brian Orakpo career as a Redskin possibly over

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

What is your idea of a "modest" contract? Just curious at the numbers involved.




Me, I said last year 9.5mil/yr was about all I would be willing to offer, but I overshot that by a lot. I wouldn't offer him anything over 5.5-6mil/yr to be honest.

What's the going rate for 3-4 OLB's that do nothing spectacularly but several things well? Who, due to injury, have missed the majority of two of the last four years?

I guess 5M/year. I dunno. I was thinking 4 yrs @ 4m/yr, 8M SB or something along those lines. I have no clue if that is realistic or a vast overpayment.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

What is your idea of a "modest" contract? Just curious at the numbers involved.




Me, I said last year 9.5mil/yr was about all I would be willing to offer, but I overshot that by a lot. I wouldn't offer him anything over 5.5-6mil/yr to be honest.

Maybe 6 or 7 per... although if Murphy shows he's capable just let him walk

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Maybe 6 or 7 per... although if Murphy shows he's capable just let him walk

... and to be capable, he needs to show (1) an ability to cover in space; and (2) that he can keep folks from consistently doubling Kerrigan and/or Hatcher.

By the end of the year, if Murphy can win some 1 on 1's as a rusher and handle the coverage duties of an OLB in a 3-4 system w/o being a liability, Rak is pretty much superfluous.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Maybe 6 or 7 per... although if Murphy shows he's capable just let him walk

I'm with you on Murphy. He's not shown it yet, and I have my doubts he ever will. I think he lacks the athletic ability to get the job done on the right side. He's better coming up the middle than on the sides.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

I'm with you on Murphy. He's not shown it yet, and I have my doubts he ever will. I think he lacks the athletic ability to get the job done on the right side. He's better coming up the middle than on the sides.

The most immediate concern with Murphy is coverage. Romo and his Frankenstein TE will eat us alive this week.

Murphy didn't cover in college and his first match up is against a dude that makes veterans look bad.

[FRPLG]

I'm ready to move on. I'm not sure what he does well. At this point he's a league average type player who thinks he's some dynamo pass-rusher...who gets hurts too much. We've seen his ceiling and can get it from a younger guy for much less. Or close to it.

[81forHOF]

I would have to say his career with the Skins most probably over. Mainly for financial reasons.

[BaltimoreSkins]

In 2012 Kerrigan's numbers dropped without Orakpo on the other side. Is there a concern about added focus on Kerrigan or is that going to be a non-issue?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

In 2012 Kerrigan's numbers dropped without Orakpo on the other side. Is there a concern about added focus on Kerrigan or is that going to be a non-issue?

Until Murphy proves himself I think it's a legit concern.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Until Murphy proves himself I think it's a legit concern.

Yup. Haven't seen the impact out of Murphy yet that I hoped for. Now would be a great time for him to shine, it would show that we have one less problem to worry about for next year.

[CrazyCanuck]

90% chance Orakpo is gone next year.

70% chance he signs in the NFC East.

50% chance he burns us at some point in the future.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

90% chance Orakpo is gone next year.

70% chance he signs in the NFC East.

50% chance he burns us at some point in the future.

Lol yup. Watch him go straight to Philly or NY, and then when Polumbus gets his job back by some miracle Rak will go ham on him, and make everyone go, "why the hell did we let him go?"

I think Rak could still be an effective player, but his best shot will be with a 4-3 team. He just ain't cutting it here.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mooby

Lol yup. Watch him go straight to Philly or NY, and then when Polumbus gets his job back by some miracle Rak will go ham on him, and make everyone go, "why the hell did we let him go?"

I think Rak could still be an effective player, but his best shot will be with a 4-3 team. He just ain't cutting it here.

Rak plays on the right side. He'd be facing Trent Williams. Name me a single time in his career he has beat a top LT for a sack. I'll be waiting.

[NC_Skins]

I'm still amazed at how many fanboys think that Rak is our best defensive player...

[JoeRedskin]

As usual, excellent analysis by Keim:

Assessing Brian Orakpo's Washington Redskins career - ESPN

Rushing the passer is about more than sacks, and Orakpo influences the pass rush. But when you're being paid $11.45 million for one season and when you want to be paid even more, then you have to do more than set up others. You have to make game-changing plays. . . .

This is a playmakers' league, and Orakpo didn't make enough plays. He played the run well and didn't have any coverage mishaps, though he dropped an easy interception versus Arizona. . . .

In his first five seasons, Orakpo intercepted one pass and forced six fumbles (while recording 39.5 sacks). Some linebackers being paid the kind of money Orakpo seeks have forced the same number of turnovers in one season. . . .

He was a good player. The Redskins needed him to be great.