Bucs Postgame Thread

[v8-7]

Love RG3 but he is broken ..
I think he will audition for the rest of the year to see if we bring him back.

O'line should have been addressed years ago.
We have lots of good skill players, but without the o'line, it won't click.

Niles Paul.. Why is he still even on the team ?

Defense has most of the parts but Haz has NEVER been a quality d'coach.
Again this should have been addressed years ago.

We keep getting more talented "skill " players that have done well with other teams but fail to address our most basic needs.

Instead we have been picking up guys like Lauvaro to patch something together
that never seems to work

[skinsfan69]

Can anyone imagine what Aldon Smith is thinking right now? He abused Williams last year and now he gets Moses? What's the over under on sacks next week? I say 6 and a half.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can anyone imagine what Aldon Smith is thinking right now? He abused Williams last year and now he gets Moses? What's the over under on sacks next week? I say 6 and a half.

Don't forget Aaron Lynch, just as good as Smith.

[Chico23231]

where are the mods?

[Alvin Walton]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

where are the mods?

They are off buying Montreal Alouettes jerseys.

[Chico23231]

We been drafting Olinemen...may be the wrong ones or piss poor coaching. I think its a combo of both. Still shaking my head at the Lauvao signing. He's made no improvemenat at his position.

[JoeRedskin]

Reading between the lines in some of Keim's and other local media posts - the team is and, in recent history, has been about "We are talented enough to win" instead of "regardless of talent, winning requires hard work and consistent attention to detail." The locals talk of a loose team that jokes around after losses, dances to music while waiting to run drills, and, generally, seems to believe winning requires only some talented players.

You want to stop making mental mistakes? Pay attention, practice harder. While some rare players are talented enough to be the exception (and I would suggest none are on the current Skins team), the "you play like you practice" rule is applicable to everyone at this level. Not sure the current players believe that.

I thought one of the positive things Shanny brought to the team was a step away from the sense of entitlement and the culture of "we are good enough." Apparently, I was wrong.

Hey Redskins - You are not good enough. You haven't been good enough. AND you won't be good enough until you consistently practice like you aren't good enough!

[Chico23231]

Outside of Trent Williams and Kory L at center we got nobody on the Oline worth a shit.

[Evilgrin]

The same mental mistakes happened under Shanahan. Picking and then developing players is something we don't do well if at all.

[JoeRedskin]

As to Oline, sure, we have only a couple guys in the 1st or 2nd round, but we have drafted several in the 3rd and 4th and more in the 6th and 7th. If you look around the league, lots of good, solid lines have guys who were drafted in later rounds or were brought in as UFA's.

Other than a stretch under Vinny, we have consistently brought in linemen. If you constantly bring in solid developmental guys, the odds are that you will get some good starters along the way and continue to develop depth.

The plan is not inherently flawed. The execution has been.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

As to Oline, sure, we have only a couple guys in the 1st or 2nd round, but we have drafted several in the 3rd and 4th and more in the 6th and 7th. If you look around the league, lots of good, solid lines have guys who were drafted in later rounds or were brought in as UFA's.

Other than a stretch under Vinny, we have consistently brought in linemen. If you constantly bring in solid developmental guys, the odds are that you will get some good starters along the way and continue to develop depth.

The plan is not inherently flawed. The execution has been.

Foerster hasn't done a good job developing our young OL, we currently have 3 3rd rounders collecting dust. Lauvao, Chester and Compton need to be replaced. In addition to Haslett being replaced, so does Foerster.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Foerster hasn't done a good job developing our young OL, we currently have 3 3rd rounders collecting dust. Lauvao, Chester and Compton need to be replaced. In addition to Haslett being replaced, so does Foerster.

There is no fucking excuse in the world Chester was brought back, likewise with Bowen on the other side. These guys are clear waste of money and our cap space.

[Rotten1980]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

There is no fucking excuse in the world Chester was brought back, likewise with Bowen on the other side. These guys are clear waste of money and our cap space.

This. Allen's personnel moves have failed more often than not, all the way around.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

As to Oline, sure, we have only a couple guys in the 1st or 2nd round, but we have drafted several in the 3rd and 4th and more in the 6th and 7th. If you look around the league, lots of good, solid lines have guys who were drafted in later rounds or were brought in as UFA's.

Other than a stretch under Vinny, we have consistently brought in linemen. If you constantly bring in solid developmental guys, the odds are that you will get some good starters along the way and continue to develop depth.

The plan is not inherently flawed. The execution has been.

1 of 2 things is happening in my opinion. 1) Our scouts/personnel guys are bringing home a bunch of spoiled food or 2) Our coaches don't know how to cook

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

1 of 2 things is happening in my opinion. 1) Our scouts/personnel guys are bringing home a bunch of spoiled food or 2) Our coaches don't know how to cook

I am going with a large dose of No.1 and a sprinkling of No.2. I blame scouting/personnel b/c I think the Forrester and Gruden are solid coaches. Are they stellar, Forrester, no. Gruden, it's year 1 but he has been very successful in all past stops.

I always thought scouting was a strength. Wasn't one of the knocks on Shanny - by Allen - that he overruled the scouts? Was it just a case of the blind leading the blind??