Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions

calia · 08-21-2015, 09:37 PM

Just saw on Twitter -- there were 3 receivers open on the play when RGIII got hurt (I cannot seem to paste the picture here, but it seems pretty clear). On Dan Steinberg's feed.

Honestly, I so desperately want him to succeed -- unlike many on the site, I really like the guy. But I cannot say I am confident he will be able to pull it together given recent history. I truly hope to be wrong.

skinsfaninok · 08-21-2015, 10:00 PM

I saw it too, it was 3rd and long and he had guys open for short gains but still

ethat001 · 08-21-2015, 10:09 PM

Come on, no excuses, Griffin sucked last game.

1) YES, the O-line and lack of 1st down run success killed him. Analysis showed many hits/sacks within 2 second range, and some before WR turned around. But bad pocket presence, getting spooked into running into pressure, poor ball security / fumbles, missing open dump-off WR worsened things. And all these issues haven't improved in FOUR years.

2) Btw, last drive Griffin was playing against their 2nd string defense. Yes, the same one Colt played against and scored. I have no problem sending Griffin out there for that drive -- (a) playing against their 2's should have yielded points for some confidence, and (b) the injury was his own fault for the phantom fumble. Could've just thrown it away or dumped it off.

3) Willie Smith really really sucks. Don't we have a better backup plan? Really? So we're one injury away at LT from throwing the season?

Anyway, we WILL be better than that, with TW and many of our defensive starters back soon. But the game was the same crap we've been watching for years, brings shudders thinking about watching it for another year.

Bangee7 · 08-21-2015, 10:19 PM

I'm actually going to the Balt game...I've been preaching patience with RG3, but I really hope KC starts.

As others have mentioned, we are in Year #4...this is the best we get? Yuck!

I'd much rather have an INT down the field than a fumble in the back field.

kingj · 08-23-2015, 11:34 PM

Great thread. I have held back on bashing RGIII but it's getting old now. He's on his last chance early this season.

If they want to start someone else in game 1 like KC I'm good with it.

Hog1 · 08-24-2015, 08:40 AM

You might remember Robert had similar results much of the time under Shanahan as well....

08-21-2015, 09:37 PM	#1
calia Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Woodside, CA Age: 58 Posts: 4,028	Re: Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions Just saw on Twitter -- there were 3 receivers open on the play when RGIII got hurt (I cannot seem to paste the picture here, but it seems pretty clear). On Dan Steinberg's feed. Honestly, I so desperately want him to succeed -- unlike many on the site, I really like the guy. But I cannot say I am confident he will be able to pull it together given recent history. I truly hope to be wrong. __________________ "Coach, what do you think of your team's execution?" "I'm all for it." -- Coach McKay

08-21-2015, 10:00 PM	#2
skinsfaninok Warpath Hall of Fame Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UNITED STATES Age: 39 Posts: 36,242	Re: Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions I saw it too, it was 3rd and long and he had guys open for short gains but still __________________ “Mediocre people don’t like high achievers, and high achievers don’t like mediocre people.” ― Nick Saban

08-21-2015, 10:09 PM	#3
ethat001 Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 920	Re: Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions Come on, no excuses, Griffin sucked last game. 1) YES, the O-line and lack of 1st down run success killed him. Analysis showed many hits/sacks within 2 second range, and some before WR turned around. But bad pocket presence, getting spooked into running into pressure, poor ball security / fumbles, missing open dump-off WR worsened things. And all these issues haven't improved in FOUR years. 2) Btw, last drive Griffin was playing against their 2nd string defense. Yes, the same one Colt played against and scored. I have no problem sending Griffin out there for that drive -- (a) playing against their 2's should have yielded points for some confidence, and (b) the injury was his own fault for the phantom fumble. Could've just thrown it away or dumped it off. 3) Willie Smith really really sucks. Don't we have a better backup plan? Really? So we're one injury away at LT from throwing the season? Anyway, we WILL be better than that, with TW and many of our defensive starters back soon. But the game was the same crap we've been watching for years, brings shudders thinking about watching it for another year.

08-23-2015, 11:34 PM	#5
kingj Special Teams Join Date: Jun 2015 Age: 56 Posts: 226	Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions Great thread. I have held back on bashing RGIII but it's getting old now. He's on his last chance early this season. If they want to start someone else in game 1 like KC I'm good with it.

08-24-2015, 08:40 AM	#6
Hog1 Quietly Dominating the East Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Naples, Florida Posts: 10,675	Re: Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions You might remember Robert had similar results much of the time under Shanahan as well.... __________________ Goodbye Sean..........Vaya Con Dios thankyou Joe....... *“God made certain people to play football. He was one of them.” – Joe Gibbs*

08-21-2015, 10:19 PM	#4
Bangee7 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Pa Posts: 697	Re: Plusses and Minuses vs. Lions I'm actually going to the Balt game...I've been preaching patience with RG3, but I really hope KC starts. As others have mentioned, we are in Year #4...this is the best we get? Yuck! I'd much rather have an INT down the field than a fumble in the back field.

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