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Old 05-19-2005, 08:32 AM   #1
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To PSU, if I pissed you off I'm sorry man. Didn't mean it that way. To be honest, I enjoyed the conversation with you even though I threw an f-bomb in there, I enjoy spirited discussions. If I seem to attack somebody's opinion out there, just know that I'm attacking the opinion, but I'm not attacking you. It's a subtle difference, I guess.

I won't get personal, I promise. But I do think conflict needs to exist on the boards as long as it's handled maturely. If everything was peaches and cream 100% of the time wouldn't it get boring around here?
I'm with you. I love debating, and if it's only my opinion that's being attacked......well then that just gives me something to debate.

I was probably too sensitive to the F-bomb.......didn't know where it was coming from........now I do, so we're all cool as far as I'm concerned.
Looking forward to our next topic worthy of "spirited discussion."
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Old 05-19-2005, 05:13 AM   #2
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Taylor was benched for missing the practice and supposedly, it had nothing to do with the DUI.

I agree that you shouldn't necessarily bench Taylor for missing voluntary workouts. It would be a TOTALLY different story, in my mind at least, if he missed any camps.
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Old 05-19-2005, 08:19 AM   #3
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Taylor was benched for missing the practice and supposedly, it had nothing to do with the DUI.

I agree that you shouldn't necessarily bench Taylor for missing voluntary workouts. It would be a TOTALLY different story, in my mind at least, if he missed any camps.
100% agreed. Mandatory means mandatory and voluntary means voluntary, no matter how many people show up for "voluntary" practices.
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Old 05-19-2005, 08:25 AM   #4
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Like Daseal. I disagree with what that dude says like 99% of the time. But he's still my boy. After all, we're all Redskins fans.

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Old 05-19-2005, 10:22 AM   #5
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ST does have amazing football skills but what he needs to develop even more are his mental skills. He needs to learn to read QBs better and recognize routes faster. Thsi is why his missing any of these workouts or even mini camp is be so bad. His body will be ready but his mind might not be and thats where games are won & lost.
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:04 AM   #6
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Personally I don't like Ed Reed that much, he's smarter (due to massive game preperation) than Taylor but lacks the physical gifts. I think Ray Lewis is the most over-rated player in the NFL, but damned if he isn't an amazing leader, if the skins could get a veteran guy that the young ones expected, watch film at his house, etc. I think it would help rookies like this.

Taylor is still young though, he has a nasty mean streak, and how many times did you see (after the ball was thrown) him leave his position and be only one step away from making a huge play. I don't even really think Dallas was his fault, of course you're going to double up Keyshawn, not the UDFA WR. But, that can be debated forever.
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Old 05-19-2005, 12:59 PM   #7
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Daseal:

The really great players are the ones who are not one-step away from making huge plays...
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:01 PM   #8
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SC, it was his rookie season, Taylor will be a year wiser and no slower athletically.

He'll be really great this season.
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:12 PM   #9
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Exactly. Only thing that will gain him that step is gametime experience.
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Old 05-19-2005, 01:21 PM   #10
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SC, it was his rookie season, Taylor will be a year wiser and no slower athletically.
But that's just it. The year doesn't seem to have made Taylor a wit wiser, and missing the OTA's isn't helping.

Parents who love their children discipline them so that they become wise, mature adults. Otherwise, their children grow up to be spoiled brats. A coach that ignores Taylor's misbehaving and lack of respect is doing no favors for either Taylor or the team. If anything has a chance to drive some of the selfishness and immaturity out of Taylor, it is discipline. Fawning over his on-the-field exploits while ignoring his lack of character will only ever create a bigger spoiled brat. I don't know what form the discipline should take in this instance, but I'm with SC in that Gibbs needs to get up in Sean Taylor's face and press him for a respectful answer as to why Taylor didn't return any of the phone calls. Depending on that answer, I would think some sort of discipline might not only be in order, but downright beneficial to Taylor and to the team. I wouldn't rule out a temporary benching as a possible form for that discipline.

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Old 05-19-2005, 01:57 PM   #11
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But that's just it. The year doesn't seem to have made Taylor a wit wiser, and missing the OTA's isn't helping.

Parents who love their children discipline them so that they become wise, mature adults. Otherwise, their children grow up to be spoiled brats. A coach that ignores Taylor's misbehaving and lack of respect is doing no favors for either Taylor or the team. If anything has a chance to drive some of the selfishness and immaturity out of Taylor, it is discipline. Fawning over his on-the-field exploits while ignoring his lack of character will only ever create a bigger spoiled brat. I don't know what form the discipline should take in this instance, but I'm with SC in that Gibbs needs to get up in Sean Taylor's face and press him for a respectful answer as to why Taylor didn't return any of the phone calls. Depending on that answer, I would think some sort of discipline might not only be in order, but downright beneficial to Taylor and to the team. I wouldn't rule out a temporary benching as a possible form for that discipline.

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Old 05-19-2005, 09:55 PM   #12
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I hope he shows up at minicamp, and Coach Williams "rewards" him for missing the voluntary camps by doubly working his ass off...............
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Old 05-19-2005, 11:30 PM   #13
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Schneed and PSU,

Thanks for the clarifications. I was only kidding about the "benching"....sort of, kind of. LOL. I too enjoy good debates (as many on this site know) and I've dropped F-bombs before, I just wanted to step in before it got too hot. Feel free to call me out anytime you think I'm starting to go "personal." Sometimes miscommunications during debates lead to a slightly "hotter" debating climate than is necessary - again, I know from firsthand experience. Thanks though guys. Let the debating continue!

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Old 05-20-2005, 08:33 AM   #14
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Sometimes miscommunications during debates lead to a slightly "hotter" debating climate than is necessary - again, I know from firsthand experience. Thanks though guys. Let the debating continue!
No problem RF. No doubt, the hardest thing to get across in posts is a person's tone. So many times it's not what you say, but how you say it........and you can't get the "how you say it" in the typewritten word. That's why you Mods are so important....you make us take a minute to consider that maybe the person isn't saying it the way you think they are. So thank you.

Now, back to hunting for a topic that I can get into an argument over! :FIREdevil
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Old 05-20-2005, 08:36 AM   #15
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You're a bastard. How's that for a topic.



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