Cousins Saga 4.0. Is he done in DC?

[SolidSnake84]

This is my first post back in almost a month. I wanted to take time away from the boards as things got crazy and the Cousins train derailed. I think heads are cooler here now for sure.

I want to say in all due respect to everyone : I told you all very early in the offseason, that Cousins would not be re-signed, and they would tag him again. I said that there was something going on behind the scenes, perhaps it had to do with Bruce Allen. I pondered the question regarding Cousins' statement in February that as long as Allen was here, he would not sign a LTD. So in all due respect, I told you so. Everyone here almost flamed me and said I was crazy, we had all kinds of "experts" here that insisted i was nuts, that there was no way they tagged Cousins again.

So now i say this with a cool head: Cousins long term future is obviously now extremely in doubt here. I think IF IT IS TRUE, that Cousins doesn't want to be here, you trade him now and begin preparing for your future. It may be a bad one if we shit the bed this year and Gruden & Company are canned, maybe even Bruce Allen gets canned too. Trade Cousins somewhere that he would agree on, and get the maximum value for him. Because we cannot just have him leave after one more year here (2018) and get nothing from him at all. McCoy is not the future, but he could hold it down for a year or two while we figure out at this point plan C. To let our home grown, 4th round pick that we developed Cousins leave after franchise tag 3 and get nothing from him would perhaps, and should be, the ultimate embarrassment and sign of ineptitude from Snyder / Allen. I do not think Kirk stays beyond 2018.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

This is my first post back in almost a month. I wanted to take time away from the boards as things got crazy and the Cousins train derailed. I think heads are cooler here now for sure.

I want to say in all due respect to everyone : I told you all very early in the offseason, that Cousins would not be re-signed, and they would tag him again. I said that there was something going on behind the scenes, perhaps it had to do with Bruce Allen. I pondered the question regarding Cousins' statement in February that as long as Allen was here, he would not sign a LTD. So in all due respect, I told you so. Everyone here almost flamed me and said I was crazy, we had all kinds of "experts" here that insisted i was nuts, that there was no way they tagged Cousins again.

So now i say this with a cool head: Cousins long term future is obviously now extremely in doubt here. I think IF IT IS TRUE, that Cousins doesn't want to be here, you trade him now and begin preparing for your future. It may be a bad one if we shit the bed this year and Gruden & Company are canned, maybe even Bruce Allen gets canned too. Trade Cousins somewhere that he would agree on, and get the maximum value for him. Because we cannot just have him leave after one more year here (2018) and get nothing from him at all. McCoy is not the future, but he could hold it down for a year or two while we figure out at this point plan C. To let our home grown, 4th round pick that we developed Cousins leave after franchise tag 3 and get nothing from him would perhaps, and should be, the ultimate embarrassment and sign of ineptitude from Snyder / Allen. I do not think Kirk stays beyond 2018.

Congratulations! I'm ecstatic that your doom and gloom prediction has come true! With all due respect, I'm not an expert, just an asshole with a keyboard. I appreciate your very modest gloating after the fact. Just curious, what feels better, being right about a shitty situation or the alternative?

[FlyerSkin]

Originally Posted by mooby

Congratulations! I'm ecstatic that your doom and gloom prediction has come true! With all due respect, I'm not an expert, just an asshole with a keyboard. I appreciate your very modest gloating after the fact. Just curious, what feels better, being right about a shitty situation or the alternative?

Classic rebuttle
Mooby!!! You are the asshole we need, but don't deserve!!!!!

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by mooby

Congratulations! I'm ecstatic that your doom and gloom prediction has come true! With all due respect, I'm not an expert, just an asshole with a keyboard. I appreciate your very modest gloating after the fact. Just curious, what feels better, being right about a shitty situation or the alternative?

I'm truly not gloating after the fact of my prediction. I am pointing out that everyone on here who ridiculed me and called me crazy offered no other facts to back up their assessment other than "There's no way we will do this / There's no way Cousins gets tagged a 2nd time / blah blah blah". I gave you every reason why it wasn't going to happen. From Cousins' issues with Allen, all the way to how many believe that Cousins still connects this regime to the RG3 era which Washington wants to move away from.

I hoped that this would give my posts some credibility. Everybody wanted to write me off as a whacko but bottom line i gave you the straight talk when everybody else was creating more Cousins nonsense. I don't want any trouble with anyone here. I want to move past this Cousins stuff and get back to having constructive debates here. We can disagree about things and remain civil. I've taken a lot of insults here, ranging from the innocent misunderstandings, to - Race / Religion / Mental Health / you name it, and i've never flamed anybody in response, i've taken it in stride and tried to remain professional and courteous.

[DYoungJelly]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

I'm truly not gloating after the fact of my prediction. I am pointing out that everyone on here who ridiculed me and called me crazy offered no other facts to back up their assessment other than "There's no way we will do this / There's no way Cousins gets tagged a 2nd time / blah blah blah". I gave you every reason why it wasn't going to happen. From Cousins' issues with Allen, all the way to how many believe that Cousins still connects this regime to the RG3 era which Washington wants to move away from.

I hoped that this would give my posts some credibility. Everybody wanted to write me off as a whacko but bottom line i gave you the straight talk when everybody else was creating more Cousins nonsense. I don't want any trouble with anyone here. I want to move past this Cousins stuff and get back to having constructive debates here. We can disagree about things and remain civil. I've taken a lot of insults here, ranging from the innocent misunderstandings, to - Race / Religion / Mental Health / you name it, and i've never flamed anybody in response, i've taken it in stride and tried to remain professional and courteous.

Well you should be gloating, you pegged the incompetence of the FO and tone deafness of BA, the director of pants and picnics.

I haven't been genuinely ticked off at the team in years but this is the keystone cops!

The director of pants and picnics isn't even winning off the field because he doesn't even know the QBs damn name!!!!!!

[MTK]

The world needs more I told you so posts.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by MTK

The world needs more I told you so posts.

Don't act like we don't' say the same thing to Trump supporters.

Let Snake have his moment.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Don't act like we don't' say the same thing to Trump supporters.

Let Snake have his moment.

Dude man, it's all good here. I can see how my "comeback" post reads, but I swear in my heart it wasn't meant like that. I was just saying how I had my concerns like many of us way early in the negotiations, and everytime i would give me thoughts on why the deal wouldn't happen, people were just basically like "THATS CRAZY, NO WAY WE TAG COUSINS TWO TIMES", etc. I thought i outlined every scenario, from his issues with Bruce Allen, to the theory that has gained life on other boards, that Cousins still connects this franchise to the Shanahans and the ill-fated RG3 deal. No matter. I just don't want to be looked at as a crazy man when i gave us all straight up reasons as to why Cousins wouldn't, and didn't get signed.

To be honest, i really want to move past Cousins here, and get back to debating other things. It will be hard to do, literally every game this season they will talk about how "Cousins is playing under the tag", blah blah blah. But hopefully we (The Redskins) learned from it, and next year they offer him a real long term contract. Let me be clear: I do not believe what Bruce Allen had to say. Other people who are good at breaking down the cap told me that Allen's deal was basically a two year contract, essentially. We need to get it right next time, and we have time. HTTR

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

Dude man, it's all good here. I can see how my "comeback" post reads, but I swear in my heart it wasn't meant like that. I was just saying how I had my concerns like many of us way early in the negotiations, and everytime i would give me thoughts on why the deal wouldn't happen, people were just basically like "THATS CRAZY, NO WAY WE TAG COUSINS TWO TIMES", etc. I thought i outlined every scenario, from his issues with Bruce Allen, to the theory that has gained life on other boards, that Cousins still connects this franchise to the Shanahans and the ill-fated RG3 deal. No matter. I just don't want to be looked at as a crazy man when i gave us all straight up reasons as to why Cousins wouldn't, and didn't get signed.

To be honest, i really want to move past Cousins here, and get back to debating other things. It will be hard to do, literally every game this season they will talk about how "Cousins is playing under the tag", blah blah blah. But hopefully we (The Redskins) learned from it, and next year they offer him a real long term contract. Let me be clear: I do not believe what Bruce Allen had to say. Other people who are good at breaking down the cap told me that Allen's deal was basically a two year contract, essentially. We need to get it right next time, and we have time. HTTR

I will give you credit for calling it, congratulations. I still think you're wrong with this whole "management hates Kirk because he represents ties to the past" nonsense. I fall more into the "Bruce Allen is a moron who doesn't want to pay Kirk fair market value because he's not sold on him" line of thinking. I also agree with NC, as long as Bruce Allen runs the team I will never be convinced we are in good hands. Hopefully we see some good football this year, but if we do that means Bruce Allen isn't going anywhere and maybe Kirk is. I fully believe that Kirk feels disrespected by B.A.'s lowball offers. It remains to be seen whether this gets bungled to the point that Kirk leaves and we have no backup solution in place. If that happens I will be all in on the "fire B.A." bandwagon, not that I'm not already on that one lol.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mooby

I fall more into the "Bruce Allen is a moron who doesn't want to pay Kirk fair market value because he's not sold on him" line of thinking. I also agree with NC, as long as Bruce Allen runs the team I will never be convinced we are in good hands.

I really wonder if it's Bruce Allen or it it's really Dan Snyder. Let's not forget it's Dan Snyder who wasn't a fan of "Kurt" and was one of the main people pushing for his trade. Danny boy is still butthurt his chosen one didn't pan out. I think they're both bungling idiots.

[FlyerSkin]

Gotcha. Neither one is a stud. Keep
Kirk or draft the kid from
Wyoming is my line of thinking. I rather keep
Kirk though.

[HailGreen28]

What gets me is: We finally have a good QB. Are Snyder and Allen trying to get rid of him, without being blamed for it?

At this point I'm convinced that either by design or accident the Redskins FO is always going to screw up a good situation.

[insane4theskinsi]

winning solves everything,but losing creates nervous people,which leads to change.
cousins comes back if we win,if we lose with a record under 500,cousins and most ofthe free agents,along with gruden all leave.

[insane4theskinsi]

i think the redskins seek to become the most talked about team in the league every off season.

[skinsfaninok]

This organization loves drama, every offseason something has to come up and they just seem to be the laughing stock team nation wide. Unbelievable

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