Government shutdown 2018

[Chico23231]

This shutdown was a charade...but yet some will say this person won, that person won...folks no one really won. These typical "politics as usual" tactics are shameful...So if you like the swamp and politics as usual then you probably liked what the Dems did. Whether you like our President or hate him...I think its refreshing that we have an administration that is not doing the status quo, I enjoy them of resisting the false narratives in the media and actually approaching issues.

But the facts are facts...lotta things getting done and we seeing the benefits.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

This shutdown was a charade...but yet some will say this person won, that person won...folks no one really won. These typical "politics as usual" tactics are shameful...So if you like the swamp and politics as usual then you probably liked what the Dems did. Whether you like our President or hate him...I think its refreshing that we have an administration that is not doing the status quo, I enjoy them of resisting the false narratives in the media and actually approaching issues.



But the facts are facts...lotta things getting done and we seeing the benefits.

What benefits have you seen personally from Trump? They aren’t resisting false narratives. Russia actually did hack our election. How many of his “low level coffee boys” need to go down before you realize there is a “there” there and CNN did not fabricate the Russian “hoax”?

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

What benefits have you seen personally from Trump? They aren’t resisting false narratives. Russia actually did hack our election. How many of his “low level coffee boys” need to go down before you realize there is a “there” there and CNN did not fabricate the Russian “hoax”?

List me the benefits Russia and the Russian Gov't have received due to the Trump administration.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

List me the benefits Russia and the Russian Gov't have received due to the Trump administration.

Russia doesn’t have a government. They have a thug dictator and his fellow oligarchs who pose as one. Anyway Can I just say shady business/real estate deals worth billions and be done? My daughter forgot her lunch and im in a rush.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Russia doesn’t have a government. They have a thug dictator and his fellow oligarchs who pose as one. Anyway Can I just say shady business/real estate deals worth billions and be done? My daughter forgot her lunch and im in a rush.

LOL...ok Alex Jones...you keep chasing them windmills.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

List me the benefits Russia and the Russian Gov't have received due to the Trump administration.

Aren't talks in the works to let Exxon go drilling in the northern Russia arctic lands? I'm a little hazy on the details but I remember something about sanctions holding them up, but IIRC Trump/co. are/were trying to get rid of the sanctions?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by mooby

Aren't talks in the works to let Exxon go drilling in the northern Russia arctic lands? I'm a little hazy on the details but I remember something about sanctions holding them up, but IIRC Trump/co. are/were trying to get rid of the sanctions?

Trump denies Exxon permission to drill for oil in Russia - Apr. 21, 2017

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Aren't talks in the works to let Exxon go drilling in the northern Russia arctic lands? I'm a little hazy on the details but I remember something about sanctions holding them up, but IIRC Trump/co. are/were trying to get rid of the sanctions?

When you really pay attention to the facts the connections run so deep it becomes painfully obvious. But since the fake news bullshit has caught fire anything can simply be dismissed. Even if there is legit proof. His base wouldn’t mind if he gunned someone down on fifth avenue right? He is just barking at the moon but Mueller knows everything we do and more. We got another few weeks until it all comes out in the wash. But Trump knows that his base will believe him regardless of fake proof. The proof needs proof and that proof needs proof. He has them all primed with his fake news and witch hunt bologna. There is absolutely no doubt that the Russians wanted him elected. And there is no doubt he and his entire posse were all for it. One is a coffee boy. One he hardly knew. Is it really just coincidence that pretty much everyone in the posse has either lied about contacts with russia? No sanctions. Kushner has major ties. His whole family did. Trump was doing business with every Russian banker and has the balls to say he has no interests in Russia? The facts are all out there.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

List me the benefits Russia and the Russian Gov't have received due to the Trump administration.

I don't know if these are benefits?


Newest Additions to Our Trump-Russia Timeline

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

I don't know if these are benefits?


Newest Additions to Our Trump-Russia Timeline

The struggle to find even a hint of softening of policy toward Russia is evidence enough...in fact the administration has actually made it extremely hard on Russia and their allies. Trump bombed Syria with Russian troops in the area, the administration recently sold anti tank weapon systems to the Ukraine, and the administration has pressured Iran repeatedly a Russian ally in the Middle East...

Sanctions have continued against Russia. The approach with Russia has been much stronger than the previous administration which had their ass handed to them repeatedly. In fact, the previous administration did vey little to stop the meddling in the 2016 elections.

[CRedskinsRule]

Not painting Trump as a victim, but the hate for him that is out there causes his opponents to go to the nth degree of opposition. It's what it is. I feel the same toward HC and am glad Trump is in the WH and not her.

In 2020 we will see where the electorate is. If he makes it that long.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Not painting Trump as a victim, but the hate for him that is out there causes his opponents to go to the nth degree of opposition. It's what it is. I feel the same toward HC and am glad Trump is in the WH and not her.

In 2020 we will see where the electorate is. If he makes it that long.

You can't understand the hate for trump ,yet you say you feel the same about Hillary? Like her or not ....Hillary would not be making this country look like a bunch of asshole's. Politicians lie I get it but to not see the blatant ignorance of trump and his total disdain for the American people\citizens is borderline moronic.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You can't understand the hate for trump ,yet you say you feel the same about Hillary? Like her or not ....Hillary would not be making this country look like a bunch of asshole's. Politicians lie I get it but to not see the blatant ignorance of trump and his total disdain for the American people\citizens is borderline moronic.

I understand the hate for Trump. Never said I didn't. But HC would have put a terrible SC justice on the bench. We would not be seeing a tax cut. The economy would have stayed in neutral, and identity politics would have been even worse. HC is as corrupt and evil a person as we have conceivably seen, but, like the devil, she knows how to look angelic and fool sheep. Trump is just a moron.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I understand the hate for Trump. Never said I didn't. But HC would have put a terrible SC justice on the bench. We would not be seeing a tax cut. The economy would have stayed in neutral, and identity politics would have been even worse. HC is as corrupt and evil a person as we have conceivably seen, but, like the devil, she knows how to look angelic and fool sheep. Trump is just a moron.

Have you seen a pay increase personally?
Edit: I dont dabble in the stock market so i dont care. Those bastards dont share so dont give me it creates this and that. It creates more money for them is all. My 401 k has not doubled. Lol. Its crazy because only people who voted for Trump seem to have new found money somewhere?
As for the SCJ of course you are going to think a liberal is terrible if ur not liberal. Identity politics- well - when u have a Billionaire telling the middle class he is going to drain the swamp, but he actually is looking out for his and his cohorts taxes and real estate loopholes, etc etc it may appear as though there are no identity politics going on BUT in reality he couldn’t be identifying more with the billionaires. Hell he even gave them all jobs. Please.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Have you seen a pay increase personally?

I work for scrooge mcduck . No but honestly, my employer and I have an agreed upon structure that has worked for us both for the past few years. I am nosy to see the tax difference come 1 Feb, or whenever the IRS publishes the new guidelines.