The 50/50 Post Game Thread

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

How can he be so good in college ?? A pass is a pass ... geez.. everybody is talking about how great some of these defensive players are coming out of college well he was having huge success against them .. hell he played in front of crowds way bigger than any of the empty stadium games in Washington.. he was on TV in national televised games.. it just does not add up unless the game plan coaching is that different.. there were a lot of great football minds who thought we got a great player in Haskins .. what the hell happened?

Grudens impact can't be discounted. He stunted Haskins progression by clinging to McCoy, and probably resentment towards BA and Snyder.

Haskins is clearly immature when it comes to what is expected of an NFL qb, and having his coach not want to play him fed that immaturity.

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[jamf]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Grudens impact can't be discounted. He stunted Haskins progression by clinging to McCoy, and probably resentment towards BA and Snyder.

Haskins is clearly immature when it comes to what is expected of an NFL qb, and having his coach not want to play him fed that immaturity.

100% agree.
First thing Haskins learned in training camp was there is zero discipline and accountability on the team.



Haskins is playing on par with the overall team performance and that isn't good but I find it hard to blame the youngest and most inexperienced guy on the team for not playing better.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Grudens impact can't be discounted. He stunted Haskins progression by clinging to McCoy, and probably resentment towards BA and Snyder.

Haskins is clearly immature when it comes to what is expected of an NFL qb, and having his coach not want to play him fed that immaturity.

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Can you blame Gruden? Why would you want to deal with Haskins and all his issues? Maybe if it was his 1st year but he's in his 6th year. This is Redskins dysfunction at it's best. Make your 6th year coach work with the handpicked QB from an owner that hasn't learned a damn thing in 20 years.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Can you blame Gruden? Why would you want to deal with Haskins and all his issues? Maybe if it was his 1st year but he's in his 6th year. This is Redskins dysfunction at it's best. Make your 6th year coach work with the handpicked QB from an owner that hasn't learned a damn thing in 20 years.

Of course it falls on the FO for not firing the coaching staff last year then doing it right. But once Gruden had Haskins it was on him to groom him instead of trying to make two retread qbs work. The dysfunction of the organization is at the bottom of all of it. Any qb brought in last draft would be having issues based on the way our FO handled the end of last season, and all of this season

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Grudens impact can't be discounted. He stunted Haskins progression by clinging to McCoy, and probably resentment towards BA and Snyder.

Haskins is clearly immature when it comes to what is expected of an NFL qb, and having his coach not want to play him fed that immaturity.

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Was the season really over when Gruden was here? Im thinking it wasn’t, although that seems like decades ago. Lol. But honestly Gruden had to worry about his own job not Haskins.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Was the season really over when Gruden was here? Im thinking it wasn’t, although that seems like decades ago. Lol. But honestly Gruden had to worry about his own job not Haskins.

Thats why it ultimately falls on the Snyder Allen combo. Gruden shoupd have been fired in january or extended so that he was invested in Haskins success. But leaving a lame duck in as coach derailed the development of their selected qb

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[punch it in]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Thats why it ultimately falls on the Snyder Allen combo. Gruden shoupd have been fired in january or extended so that he was invested in Haskins success. But leaving a lame duck in as coach derailed the development of their selected qb

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Any coach that ever comes here is a lame duck. And fuck bruce he is just vinny 2.0. It is all on Snyder. He is the worst owner in all of sports and i hope the nfl puts the screws to him. The league has a vested interest in each n every team.

[OmahaRedskins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Thats why it ultimately falls on the Snyder Allen combo. Gruden shoupd have been fired in january or extended so that he was invested in Haskins success. But leaving a lame duck in as coach derailed the development of their selected qb

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We would have won more games with Gruden. They offensive side of the ball is a joke under Bill. They should have gotten rid of Greg M. We would be in the hunt with Gruden and a different DC. Granted the NFC East is garbage.

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

How can he be so good in college ?? A pass is a pass ... geez.. everybody is talking about how great some of these defensive players are coming out of college well he was having huge success against them .. hell he played in front of crowds way bigger than any of the empty stadium games in Washington.. he was on TV in national televised games.. it just does not add up unless the game plan coaching is that different.. there were a lot of great football minds who thought we got a great player in Haskins .. what the hell happened?

The NFL is a much faster game across the board, I don't care what conference you come from. And as CRed said, Gruden did him no favors NOT getting him ready. He has what, 16 starts under his belt if you add college and NFL together? Give him a minute already...

[Buffalo Bob]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

How can he be so good in college ?? A pass is a pass ... geez.. everybody is talking about how great some of these defensive players are coming out of college well he was having huge success against them .. hell he played in front of crowds way bigger than any of the empty stadium games in Washington.. he was on TV in national televised games.. it just does not add up unless the game plan coaching is that different.. there were a lot of great football minds who thought we got a great player in Haskins .. what the hell happened?

Not exactly. He played for Ohio State which had the most offensive players drafted into the NFL. He had way more time to throw to receivers that were "college open." If a receiver is in the clear it is a lot easier to adjust to an inaccurate throw than when a defender is draped all over you. Also when a receiver is wide open you can put a lot more air under the ball, you don't have to throw accurate darts. Playing QB at Ohio State is like playing catch in the backyard compared to the NFL.

[sdskinsfan2001]

We won a game and Haskins was the starter. Give zero fucks about how pretty it was. And a lot of other young bucks were great contributors. Awesome for those guys to taste victory.

Should Sims have just ran out of bounds on purpose? Or should Hopkins have purposely shanked it?

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

We won a game and Haskins was the starter. Give zero fucks about how pretty it was. And a lot of other young bucks were great contributors. Awesome for those guys to taste victory.

Should Sims have just ran out of bounds on purpose? Or should Hopkins have purposely shanked it.

Well yeah, so we can have a better draft pick...of course!

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

Well yeah, so we can have a better draft pick...of course!

Replying to this to further discuss (not because you were being serious).

If anyone wants us to lose on purpose, you are asking for the Redskins to cheat. And I'm sure other teams do cheat. But do we really need to fling more shit on top of ourselves?? You think if we cheated, even if you're ok with it, that we wouldn't get caught, and it wouldn't blow up in our faces? I mean I know that we have a damn good culture, but I don't see this being anything but a disaster for us.

If we would have lost, I would have been perfectly fine with it, but are we really getting mad about winning (and by that, being mad that we weren't cheating)?

I'd rather go 4-12 honorably than cheat to go 1-15 on purpose, for the hope that we would get a sure fire great player. I mean I want Chase Young or Andrew Thomas, but I don't want to cheat to get either of them. And there ain't no such thing as a sure thing anyways.

You play to win the game!

[Chief X_Phackter]

You know the saddest thing to me is that the Redskins are 2-9 after 11 games and not eliminated from the playoffs yet. This division is what is terrible.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by Chief X_Phackter

You know the saddest thing to me is that the Redskins are 2-9 after 11 games and not eliminated from the playoffs yet. This division is what is terrible.

So you're telling me there's a chance?!

(LOL)

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