The Buttery Males Thread

[Redskins247]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Forcing your cheerleading squad to pose topless is pretty close.

Definitely agreed...however, unless those cheerleaders come forward and say they were forced to pose and by whom that is somehow linked to Dan...nothing will come from that. Dan will just say that was all Bruce...or one of the others that have been fired, and he'll say he has corrected the problem.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Forcing your cheerleading squad to pose topless is pretty close.

They were not forced to do anything they did not want to do. The director was a female. This cheerleader thing was way overblown.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They were not forced to do anything they did not want to do. The director was a female. This cheerleader thing was way overblown.

No, BS!
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/s...aders-nfl.html

This article was first published May 2, 2018.

When the Washington Redskins took their cheerleading squad to Costa Rica in 2013 for a calendar photo shoot, the first cause for concern among the cheerleaders came when Redskins officials collected their passports upon arrival at the resort, depriving them of their official identification.

For the photo shoot, at the adults-only Occidental Grand Papagayo resort on Culebra Bay, some of the cheerleaders said they were required to be topless, though the photographs used for the calendar would not show nudity. Others wore nothing but body paint. Given the resort’s secluded setting, such revealing poses would not have been a concern for the women — except that the Redskins had invited spectators.

A contingent of sponsors and FedExField suite holders — all men — were granted up-close access to the photo shoots.

One evening, at the end of a 14-hour day that included posing and dance practices, the squad’s director told nine of the 36 cheerleaders that their work was not done. They had a special assignment for the night. Some of the male sponsors had picked them to be personal escorts at a nightclub.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

They were not forced to do anything they did not want to do. The director was a female. This cheerleader thing was way overblown.

Have to disagree here. The reports definitely show an unwillingness to participate but fearful of repercussions. I also am not sure what having a female director has anything to do with the scenario anyways.

[BaltimoreSkins]

I am actually surprised we haven't seen a petition to the NFL from fans demanding the publication of the WFT investigation

[MTK]

Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by MTK

Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.

Yeah the story wouldn’t be Gruden by wsj or nyt…the bigger fish woulda been Snyder and cover up by the league

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

Yeah the story wouldn’t be Gruden by wsj or nyt…the bigger fish woulda been Snyder and cover up by the league

What if Bruce was sending cheerleader nudes all over the league and they didn't want to kill the golden goose?

Also by Bruce sending them it wouldn't implicate Snyder directly either.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by MTK

Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.

It may sound like I'm joking, but people tend to forget that the team owners and the NFL are the same. Unless there is something completely blatant (like Richardson's harassing women in his organization), the owners as a group are not going to can another owner (see Bob Kraft).

[EdmundDorf]

Originally Posted by MTK

Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.

Heard it reported a couple of times that Snyder doesn't use email, he communicates directly by phone so I would think you are right. Whether they like him or not, he is and always has been a major embarassment to the brand. There is probably a lot of other dirt from all 32 teams in there as well that the NFL doesn't want open to public scrutiny, Gruden is a strange case of a very focused attack from someone.

[sdskinsfan2001]

Originally Posted by EdmundDorf

Heard it reported a couple of times that Snyder doesn't use email, he communicates directly by phone so I would think you are right. Whether they like him or not, he is and always has been a major embarassment to the brand. There is probably a lot of other dirt from all 32 teams in there as well that the NFL doesn't want open to public scrutiny, Gruden is a strange case of a very focused attack from someone.

650K emails? Yeah, that will drag down the whole league. The league loves the league. But so do we. Can we just release the ones that force Snyder to sell, then after he sells, bring down everyone else? We've all earned a new owner.

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by MTK

Considering he's not very popular with other owners or probably anyone in the league offices, if there was a stone cold lead pipe lock of a smoking gun to get rid of Snyder it would have been done by now. Dream on folks.

Good point. Only counter argument is that, no matter how they dislike Dan, they wouldn't want to set a precedent of forcing an owner to sell while most of them probably have some skeletons in their cupboards too...

But I don't think anything really big is coming out of this. Gruden must have pissed the wrong people off, and once this was leaked the league wasn't going to protect a coach at the detriment of its image. They wanted to end this mess real quick
The story would be different with an owner.

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[Ruhskins]

Also, this is interesting:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...blished-story/

Looks like Bruce was a source for Schefty.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Also, this is interesting:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...blished-story/

Looks like Bruce was a source for Schefty.

Florio going after Schefty.

[SkinzWin]

I mean with our historically record low attendance this season it seems like the fans are doing their best to beat Dan the only way they can, through his wallet. We can’t control him selling the team, but if there was a fan base grass roots movement to stop coming to games and buying merch, maybe that would be the necessary step to get rid of Dan. Might have to play the long game, but hell, we’ve been in purgatory the last 2 years anyways, what’s wrong with a self imposed couple years of suffering for the greater good in the future. Nothing else has worked.