Putting Things in Perspective

[RedskinRat]

Ah, well, in that case. 19-0 this season and I'll consider the last decade or so forgiven.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by RedskinRat

Ah, well, in that case. 19-0 this season and I'll consider the last decade or so forgiven.

I'll second that

[MTK]

With the way Brunell's contract is structured, it was only meant to be a 2-3 year deal anyway. His base salary jumps to $5.5M in 2006, still manageable, but in 07 it's $6.6M.

I think for mainly cap reasons he's a post June 1 cut next year.

Unless he's starting by then they can't continue to pay a backup so much $$.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

With the way Brunell's contract is structured, it was only meant to be a 2-3 year deal anyway. His base salary jumps to $5.5M in 2006, still manageable, but in 07 it's $6.6M.

I think for mainly cap reasons he's a post June 1 cut next year.

Unless he's starting by then they can't continue to pay a backup so much $$.

I quess even by Snyder's standards that's a pretty expensive tutorial program

[skinsguy]

It seems there are a few Redskins fans struggling to find excuses for another 10 point performance of which absolutely zero were engineered by Ramsey and the first teamers.

Seems like there are a few Redskins fans who are struggling to find excuses to bash the team and what better no-brainer way to do it than to bash them in their first preaseason game? I hear the Dallas Cowboys' forum board is taking in new members.

But just the same, I'm not going to try to blow smoke up my own ass by saying that there were "plenty of positives" on Saturday's game, that it made me "confident", or go back to the disaster that was the 2004 season and say "wow, look what Ramsey did in the final five games!"

I'm simply stating some things that I found as positives from the game instead of going around bitchin' and moaning about every little thing with the team. It would also help to go back and READ every word of my first post. I'm sure you'll find where it says "there were plenty of positives and negatives"...but I can see how that wouldn't support your argument.

[That Guy]

try to play nice guys... and don't run with scissors.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by That Guy

try to play nice guys... and don't run with scissors.

LOUD NOISES!!!!







I love lamp.

[Beemnseven]

Just to put things in perspective...

1. Skinsguy: Look back at the number of posts and my involvement at this site through last season, and then tell me how or why a "fair-weather fan" would spend any amount of time paying attention to or writing posts about a struggling team heading for a 6-10 record. According to the sentiments I've read, if one dares to criticize the performance of Redskin players after a 28-10 loss, that automatically means one is engaging in "hyper-analysis" or is a "fair weather fan". Interesting.

2. Matty: I do not, nor have I ever expected Patrick Ramsey to magically transform into Peyton Manning. Trust me guys, I wouldn't expect 49 touchdown passes from Patrick Ramsey over the course of 5 years, much less one season. I do however, count on a QB of Ramsey's apparent talent to move the ball rather effortlessly against Carolina Panther second teamers in the first preseason game. But hey, judging from what I've read here recently, I was asking WAY too much.

3. Canthetuna: Look man, no hard feelings OK? You and I want the same thing -- for our team, the Redskins, to kick ass and permanently leave the doldrums of mediocrity of which this team has spent the last 12 years. I guess I'm just a little more skeptical after, yes I know, one preseason game. And again, I'm not calling for Ramsey to be traded, cut, demoted or have him strung up by his testicles and caned. He deserves the rest of the preseason and at least 4 to 5 games into the regular season before he gets pulled. One thing you and I can both agree on, I think, is that we need to see some improvement tomorrow night against the Bengals. That's all.

Peace, my brothers.

[Redskins_P]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Just to put things in perspective...

1. Skinsguy: Look back at the number of posts and my involvement at this site through last season, and then tell me how or why a "fair-weather fan" would spend any amount of time paying attention to or writing posts about a struggling team heading for a 6-10 record. According to the sentiments I've read, if one dares to criticize the performance of Redskin players after a 28-10 loss, that automatically means one is engaging in "hyper-analysis" or is a "fair weather fan". Interesting.

2. Matty: I do not, nor have I ever expected Patrick Ramsey to magically transform into Peyton Manning. Trust me guys, I wouldn't expect 49 touchdown passes from Patrick Ramsey over the course of 5 years, much less one season. I do however, count on a QB of Ramsey's apparent talent to move the ball rather effortlessly against Carolina Panther second teamers in the first preseason game. But hey, judging from what I've read here recently, I was asking WAY too much.

3. Canthetuna: Look man, no hard feelings OK? You and I want the same thing -- for our team, the Redskins, to kick ass and permanently leave the doldrums of mediocrity of which this team has spent the last 12 years. I guess I'm just a little more skeptical after, yes I know, one preseason game. And again, I'm not calling for Ramsey to be traded, cut, demoted or have him strung up by his testicles and caned. He deserves the rest of the preseason and at least 4 to 5 games into the regular season before he gets pulled. One thing you and I can both agree on, I think, is that we need to see some improvement tomorrow night against the Bengals. That's all.

Peace, my brothers.

C'mon guys lets hug it out.......

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Just to put things in perspective...

1. Skinsguy: Look back at the number of posts and my involvement at this site through last season, and then tell me how or why a "fair-weather fan" would spend any amount of time paying attention to or writing posts about a struggling team heading for a 6-10 record. According to the sentiments I've read, if one dares to criticize the performance of Redskin players after a 28-10 loss, that automatically means one is engaging in "hyper-analysis" or is a "fair weather fan". Interesting.

You have 384 posts. WhoopTie freakin dah! According to the sentiments I've read, if one dares to say anything postive about the team after they lose a preseason game, then they're accused of having their heads up their asses. I was just as disappointed as everybody else here about the overall performance from the game. I thought the first team offense was disappointing! But dare I say anything positive about our offensive line not giving up a sack, Nemo playing well, Brunell playing well, etc.... suddenly I'm wearing rose colored glasses because I happened to take away a few positive things from a preseason game. Heck, when Gibbs was here the first time during our glory years, we hardly (if ever) had a winning preseason....IT JUST DIDN'T MATTER!

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

You have 384 posts. WhoopTie freakin dah!

I said look at the number of posts through last season, when this team was stinking it up. Why would a fair weather fan spend ANY time writing posts about a team that was headed for a 6-10 record? I wasn't trying boast about a total of 384 posts. Why, that pales in comparison to your mighty total of 1115 posts! Daseal has the perfect quote at the bottom of all his posts -- "Apparently having unrelenting optimism means your not a fan". Boy, does that ever hit the nail on the head.

Originally Posted by skinsguy

According to the sentiments I've read, if one dares to say anything postive about the team after they lose a preseason game, then they're accused of having their heads up their asses.

Next time read more carefully Skinsguy. I said those who are hellbent on defending Ramsey have their heads up their ass -- not the whole team. And even that was in jest. Certainly there were other individuals on the team that had decent performances. Not as many though that would lead me personally to believe there were "plenty of positives".

Sorry to disappoint you, but I've always been more of the skeptical type. If it makes you feel any better, the next time the team loses by 18 points, I'll be sure to butter you up, comment on how lush the playing field looked, how the uniforms were crisp and clean, and how Ramsey's interceptions had such tight spirals so you can feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

[skinsguy]

Hey, I am playing nice. I was nice enough to make him feel somewhat important by me replying to not only one, but three of his posts!

I just think it's funny when fans will jump at the chance to bash the team, when knowing the same fans will be cheering for the team when they start winning. What's that smell? Oh...that fair weather fairy dust again! LOL

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Hey, I am playing nice. I was nice enough to make him feel somewhat important by me replying to not only one, but three of his posts!

I just think it's funny when fans will jump at the chance to bash the team, when knowing the same fans will be cheering for the team when they start winning. What's that smell? Oh...that fair weather fairy dust again! LOL

LOL yeah, I dont have any hard feelings, but, you know what... Clinton Portis didn't gain very much yards, and his YPC were'nt all that high, in this scrimmage. Forget what he's done in the past, that doesn't fit into the scope of my argument, and that's all I really want to do. Hell I wish we'd cut him too...


What...that was circumstancial?? You mean circumstances surrounding a situation can alter the factual outcome of the situation?? Nooo. Really??

Oh, it was only a preseason game... I see. Maybe I shouldn't read that much into it after all.:frusty:



BTW, Matty, I'm begging you to designate a sarcasm font. Italics are okay, but something patriotic would be nice. lol.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by canthetuna

LOL yeah, I dont have any hard feelings, but, you know what... Clinton Portis didn't gain very much yards, and his YPC were'nt all that high, in this scrimmage. Forget what he's done in the past, that doesn't fit into the scope of my argument, and that's all I really want to do. Hell I wish we'd cut him too...

Well, I don't know I'd go that far in cutting Portis..I personally don't see any sense in doing such, but I digress.

I just think after the preseason, we might have a little better assessment on the regular season. Then again, Spurrier had a winning record in the preseason...so judging the team by what it does in the preseason isn't very accurate.

[EternalEnigma21]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Well, I don't know I'd go that far in cutting Portis..I personally don't see any sense in doing such, but I digress.

I just think after the preseason, we might have a little better assessment on the regular season. Then again, Spurrier had a winning record in the preseason...so judging the team by what it does in the preseason isn't very accurate.

You're preaching to the choir lol. You have to read the whole thread. I wasn't actually saying cut portis. I'm not quite sure by your response that you understood that?