Peyton Manning or RGIII your choice

[biffle]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I don't think anyone is giving up 6 picks for Luck. The most I'd give for Luck is:

2012 1st rd.
2013 1st rd.
2014 2nd rd.

If you don't want it whatever

And when they stop laughing.....?

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well remember in my scenario I'm talking RT plus picks vs RG3 minus picks. I think that, to me at least, closes the gap

I'd like to hear your RGIII vs "Clark Kent" Tannehill Smooty. Like why do you think the gap is so small.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I'd like to hear your RGIII vs "Clark Kent" Tannehill Smooty. Like why do you think the gap is so small.

You'll have to wait for my underground rap vinyl to come out

[NM Redskin]

I like option one, but one thing is how far do we drop down for RT? I would hate to trade down and miss RT. At least if you give up the picks for RG3, you know you will get him.

[CultBrennan59]

The more I watch Tannehill the more I don't want him. He always starts games off well, and then falters awfully in them the later it is in the game. Why didn't he start at QB 2 years ago? I just don't trust a guy who was a WR 2 years ago and just got the starting job midway through last year, because of injury.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

The more I watch Tannehill the more I don't want him. He always starts games off well, and then falters awfully in them the later it is in the game. Why didn't he start at QB 2 years ago? I just don't trust a guy who was a WR 2 years ago and just got the starting job midway through last year, because of injury.

But how much of A&M's struggle are because of him vs the entire team struggling against a better opponent?

re:Why didn't he start at QB 2 years ago?

He didn't start 2 years ago because as a freshmen he lost the QB competition between a Sr. QB Stephen McGee who turned out to be an NFL prospect that was drafted by the Cowboys and Jerrod Johnson another pro prospect QB.
He was then asked to move to WR to help the team (which he did) because at the time he was the 3rd QB behind Jerrod Johnson who was arguably the best QB in the Big 12 (better then Colt McCoy) before he trashed his shoulder.
So long story short: Tannehill moved to WR because as a freshmen there were 2 NFL QBs ahead of him.

And to be clear he played all of last year at QB it was the previous year that he took over mid-season and it wasn't because of 'injury'; Johnson was physically able to play (he had surgery on his shoulder over the previous summer and opened the season as the starter).
The A&M staff thought Tannehill would be a better option following some tough loses where Johnson underperformed and it turns out the staff was right.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by biffle

And when they stop laughing.....?

I would have hung up already.

[biffle]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

I would have hung up already.

Earlier in the thread you said you'd give up a better deal for Griffin, so I assume you like him more than Luck?

[los panda]

does anyone else buy the pro football weekly draft preview? i love carrying that around and reading about every player when i'm waiting in line or something of that nature

[biffle]

Originally Posted by los panda

does anyone else buy the pro football weekly draft preview? i love carrying that around and reading about every player when i'm waiting in line or something of that nature

I usually get theirs and the Sporting News'. Maybe another if I have extra money weighing me down.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by los panda

does anyone else buy the pro football weekly draft preview? i love carrying that around and reading about every player when i'm waiting in line or something of that nature

I buy all the major draft ones usually 4 magazines a year I'm getting on that stuff. Its good to read each magazines pros and cons of each player, and looking back on years past to see who was right on their evaluations and predictions and who wasn't. They also help you get a consensus answer on each player like if all magazines agree that Vontaze is 'overrated'.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

I'm not giving up 3 1st rounders for anyone, but to be honest I do like RGIII a little more than Luck. I think he has a higher ceiling but a lower floor if that makes sense. Plus with Luck you would have to pretty much give away your entire draft for. 3 1st rounders is the opening asking price and that's ridiculous but 5 to 10 years from now I think RGIII will be the better player.

[warriorzpath]

There are 2 question marks with Peyton Manning- is he healthy and how will he play after a year away from football? The first question is the easily most important.

The thing I don't get is - why are there no question marks being discussed with RGIII? Why is he the one qb that no one questions- with his talent and skill?

I would start off with - what usually makes a qb great in the nfl? And does he possess or have the likely potential to attain those qualities?

I'm not saying that he doesn't - I'm just saying I don't know. I'm just wondering what has a bunch of people convinced so early.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

There are 2 question marks with Peyton Manning- is he healthy and how will he play after a year away from football? The first question is the easily most important.

The thing I don't get is - why are there no question marks being discussed with RGIII? Why is he the one qb that no one questions- with his talent and skill?

I would start off with - what usually makes a qb great in the nfl? And does he possess or have the likely potential to attain those qualities?

I'm not saying that he doesn't - I'm just saying I don't know. I'm just wondering what has a bunch of people convinced so early.

Good question, but you could say the exact same thing about Luck.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Good question, but you could say the exact same thing about Luck.

That's true but one difference is - Luck first garnered his attention after last season, which basically put him under a microscope. Because of that attention - this past season, he was evaluated in every game he played.

RGIII got much of his attention in his pursuit of the heisman and then after he won it. So there weren't as many games that fans and media paid attention to up that point. And that's why there should be much less thats known with RGIII. And thats also why I think there should be more question marks with him.