2013 Free Agents

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

According to a link that was posted in another thread, we would save $3.3 mil. on the cap if Fletch retires.

Thanks!

[CultBrennan59]

The other thing about Ellerbe is that he is very, very injury prone.

Keep this in mind, he was a backup the previous 3 years and this year he started 7 or 8 games, and was still injured/playing with numerous injuries. In those 3 years he wasn't starting and was a back up/package player/special teams guy, he was still missing time with injuries.

So ask yourself, do you really want a guy who when healthy, which is a rare sighting, is a top 20 MLB at best?

And also, do you think the Ravens who just lost Ray Lewis and McClain has a neck/spine injury, are going to let this guy walk? And if they do let this guy walk, maybe you can blame money, but I would think it would be a major concern to see them let him walk away in FA, that would be a red flag to whichever team signs him.

Someone said he's a Dexter Jackson signing waiting to happen, they may be right.

[KI Skins Fan]

It needs to be said that the Redskins may not be able to keep DHall even if they want to. I mean, how much of a pay cut we he have to accept for it to make sense for both sides for him to stay? Maybe 50% or more, I would think. He might not want to do that.

To me, it's unthinkable for the Skins to consider giving him a multi-year contract with bonuses or guaranteed money.

Like it or not, the best alternative may be to simply cut him. To me, that means the Skins will need to pick up a CB in FA and draft a good one, as well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

It needs to be said that the Redskins may not be able to keep DHall even if they want to. I mean, how much of a pay cut we he have to accept for it to make sense for both sides for him to stay? Maybe 50% or more, I would think. He might not want to do that.

To me, it's unthinkable for the Skins to consider giving him a multi-year contract with bonuses or guaranteed money.

Like it or not, the best alternative may be to simply cut him. To me, that means the Skins will need to pick up a CB in FA and draft a good one, as well.

I think the most likely best case offer from the team is they split the $8M he's due this year over 2 years, basically giving him a one year extension.

[SkinzWin]

Jairus Byrd has been franchised. There goes one prospective secondary player off our radar.

NFL Football Transactions - National Football League - ESPN

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Jairus Byrd has been franchised. There goes one prospective secondary player off our radar.

NFL Football Transactions - National Football League - ESPN

Wow..um do you want to place a bet with me who the next FA's will be who get franchised? My moneys on Michael Johnson, Pat MacAfee, Henry Melton, and Ryan Clady....not that I already knew this almost a week ago like the rest of NFL fans..

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Wow..um do you want to place a bet with me who the next FA's will be who get franchised? My moneys on Michael Johnson, Pat MacAfee, Henry Melton, and Ryan Clady....not that I already knew this almost a week ago like the rest of NFL fans..

Way to be a cynical @ hole. It just happened on Friday. No one had posted it yet, so I thought I would. Why don't you take your rude childishness to ES board. You'd fit in perfect there.

Edit: Okay so I just went back to look and saw Matty posted it on Friday. Missed it somehow. You still need to get over yourself Cult.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Way to be a cynical @ hole. It just happened on Friday. No one had posted it yet, so I thought I would. Why don't you take your rude childishness to ES board. You'd fit in perfect there.

Edit: Okay so I just went back to look and saw Matty posted it on Friday. Missed it somehow. You still need to get over yourself Cult.

Sorry for the a hole response. Future reference though, is to see the date of the news article and if it is greater than one day, more than likely its already been posted on this site at least once.

And Randy Starks has just been franchised along with Anthony Spencer today

[warriorzpath]

I say be patient with free agency this year and wait until after the draft to sign a veteran safety, cornerback, and right tackle - unless there is a player that is under the radar that you can get with a very good deal early on. They need to at least sign a quality veteran cb and veteran ot because there seems to be a number of them with starting experience - especially at cb. The 2nd round pick should be focused on the best safety in the draft unless there is an immediate impact player that drops down to them.

That would be my strategy with needs and free agency. Draft first then fa because of the redskins cap situation this year and the depth in the draft and fa.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

I say be patient with free agency this year and wait until after the draft to sign a veteran safety, cornerback, and right tackle - unless there is a player that is under the radar that you can get with a very good deal early on. They need to at least sign a quality veteran cb and veteran ot because there seems to be a number of them with starting experience - especially at cb. The 2nd round pick should be focused on the best safety in the draft unless there is an immediate impact player that drops down to them.

That would be my strategy with needs and free agency. Draft first then fa because of the redskins cap situation this year and the depth in the draft and fa.

Yeah this sounds like a great idea. We will end up with Madeu Williams, Stepfan Hyer, and Fred smoot.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Yeah this sounds like a great idea. We will end up with Madeu Williams, Stepfan Hyer, and Fred smoot.

Or Cyprien, Ryan Harris, and a veteran cb with starting experience like Routt, mike Jenkins, Tracy porter, Adam jones, or better- who by the way are 3 near the bottom of the list of free agent cornerbacks. They could get a number of guys that could be solid starters and also get tyrann matheiu or another cb in the 3rd round in the draft.

[Skinzman]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Yeah this sounds like a great idea. We will end up with Madeu Williams, Stepfan Hyer, and Fred smoot.

When a specific position is strong in the draft, usually there are cuts of some pretty good players at those positions. They might not happen until TC, but they will most likely happen. Never rush to overpay a vet in FA when the position is strong in the draft unless that one vet is a perfect fit/must have for your team.

If you think the only RT's and safeties that are going to be decent FA's are already on the market, then you are mistaken. I expect enough good safeties to be cut heading into or out of TC that M. Williams will be an after thought even if we dont look immediately in FA for a safety. Thrown in that the skins were a playoff team last year, and some of those last minute cuts will take the a very low salary to be given a chance at a starting job and a trip to the playoffs. That wasnt something we could look forward to in the past.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Yeah this sounds like a great idea. We will end up with Madeu Williams, Stepfan Hyer, and Fred smoot.

You must've put a lot of thought into this post, considering that you misspelled 2 of these players' names(Stepfan???), only listed former (signed) redskins players- and one who hasn't played since 2009. What was the purpose of this post? ... to try to provide the most minimum effort into a reply???

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

You must've put a lot of thought into this post, considering that you misspelled 2 of these players' names(Stepfan???), only listed former (signed) redskins players- and one who hasn't played since 2009. What was the purpose of this post? ... to try to provide the most minimum effort into a reply???

Thats the thing, they will be guys that you wont even know how to spell their names. What you really meant is wait until the dust settles and then sign guys like Cedric Griffin a week or two into free agency. If you wait till after the draft you will have to get lucky. Not how you want to run your team. The Redskins will make a move for guys like Greg Toler, Keenan Lewis, and Chris Clemons. They are not as strapped as you think.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Thats the thing, they will be guys that you wont even know how to spell their names. What you really meant is wait until the dust settles and then sign guys like Cedric Griffin a week or two into free agency. If you wait till after the draft you will have to get lucky. Not how you want to run your team. The Redskins will make a move for guys like Greg Toler, Keenan Lewis, and Chris Clemons. They are not as strapped as you think.

The redskins ARE cap-strapped. They are around 3 million over and haven't even re-signed any of their own several free-agents yet. And on top of that they need to sign their draft picks. There's been a number of $13 million thrown out there that they need to free up by restructuring existing contracts or by cuts - just to achieve this.

All of this before even thinking about signing free agents that are coming from other teams. So that's $13 million plus the cap-hit this year for any additional free agents that they would want to sign.