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[Number44]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

^^ This isnt holding IF the rusher used a swim/rip technique

Penalty: For holding by the offense: Loss of 10 yards.

Blocking Notes:

When a defensive player is held by an offensive player during the following situations, Offensive Holding will not be called:
if the runner is being tackled simultaneously by another defensive player;
if the runner simultaneously goes out of bounds;
if a Fair Catch is made simultaneously;
if the action clearly occurs after a forward pass has been thrown to a receiver beyond the line of scrimmage;
if the action occurs away from the point of attack and not within close line play;
if a free kick results in a touchback;
if a scrimmage kick simultaneously becomes a touchback;
if the action is part of a double-team block, unless the defender splits the double team, gets to the outside of either blocker, or is taken to the ground; or
if, during a defensive charge, a defensive player uses a “rip” technique that puts an offensive player in a position that would normally be holding.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...hands-and-arms

I saw it on reddit and didnt know this.

You forgot:

"if the defensive team is the Washington Football Team."

[FrenchSkin]

Originally Posted by SunnySide

^^ This isnt holding IF the rusher used a swim/rip technique

Penalty: For holding by the offense: Loss of 10 yards.

Blocking Notes:

When a defensive player is held by an offensive player during the following situations, Offensive Holding will not be called:
if the runner is being tackled simultaneously by another defensive player;
if the runner simultaneously goes out of bounds;
if a Fair Catch is made simultaneously;
if the action clearly occurs after a forward pass has been thrown to a receiver beyond the line of scrimmage;
if the action occurs away from the point of attack and not within close line play;
if a free kick results in a touchback;
if a scrimmage kick simultaneously becomes a touchback;
if the action is part of a double-team block, unless the defender splits the double team, gets to the outside of either blocker, or is taken to the ground; or
if, during a defensive charge, a defensive player uses a “rip” technique that puts an offensive player in a position that would normally be holding.

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules...hands-and-arms

I saw it on reddit and didnt know this.

Yeah that's a basic of refereeing holding. You always have to keep in mind you only flag what has an impact on the play (unless it's unsportsmanlike conduct and/or relative to players safety). So when a defender makes a shitty rip move and '"loses", the fact that he ends up "visually" being held doesn't erase the fact that the OL was making a legal block and the defender put himself in that position. The Olineman isn't supposed to let go just because the DL made a rip move.
Now when it becomes a foul is if the OL drags the defender to the ground and/or keeps holding while the defender is past him.

[sdskinsfan2001]

That move is called The Kerrigan (the ref not calling it).

That man got cheated so many times.

He would at minimum have 10 more sacks. Or a combination of sacks and holding calls. Probably more like a combo of 20 - 30.

[skinsfaninok]

I like CeeDee Lamb and think he's a damn good player but the hype on him this O/S has been stupid... You would think he is going to have 200 catches this yr

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I like CeeDee Lamb and think he's a damn good player but the hype on him this O/S has been stupid... You would think he is going to have 200 catches this yr

Before we crown him….how’s Dak’s shoulder?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

I like CeeDee Lamb and think he's a damn good player but the hype on him this O/S has been stupid... You would think he is going to have 200 catches this yr

Comes with the territory. The Cowboys are going to win 15 games and the Superbowl again. How these people get on the hype train year after year when the Cowboys under achieve every year is mind boggling. Dak, Lamb, Zeke all Hall of Famers playing on the best team ever! ……

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Comes with the territory. The Cowboys are going to win 15 games and the Superbowl again. How these people get on the hype train year after year when the Cowboys under achieve every year is mind boggling. Dak, Lamb, Zeke all Hall of Famers playing on the best team ever! ……

I mean they have won the Super Bowl 27 straight years so it’s really not hype….🤦*♂️

[WCommandersfan99]

If anyone cares:

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/21...as-broadcaster

Now, he can be more public in his venom for WFT and Cousins lol. Guess his plans on playing more are done.

[Ruhskins]

I love the mess the Iggles are creating for themselves.

They are now linked to a Watson trade, which I'm sure it is going to sour things with Jalen Hurts: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ot-heating-up/

So they fire Pederson and get rid of Wentz, all to basically say they don't want Hurts as their QB?

With so many legal troubles behind Watson, I doubt any team is going to pay the Texans' asking price.

[skinsfaninok]

good Q

[MissouriSkin]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

good Q

Yeah I heard he left day 1 and haven’t heard a peep about it since. 🤷*♂️

[skinsfaninok]

Source: Talks are heating up between #Eagles and #Texans on a Deshaun Watson trade. Still some hurdles to get over. But both sides attempting to come to an agreement.

https://twitter.com/ChrisTrapasso

If this happens it would SUCK for the NFCE, He's a top 10 QB easily and in his prime

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Source: Talks are heating up between #Eagles and #Texans on a Deshaun Watson trade. Still some hurdles to get over. But both sides attempting to come to an agreement.

https://twitter.com/ChrisTrapasso

If this happens it would SUCK for the NFCE, He's a top 10 QB easily and in his prime

No they are not, according to PFT. Texans' price is too high and no team would be stupid to pay it with such a huge legal cloud behind him.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

No they are not, according to PFT. Texans' price is too high and no team would be stupid to pay it with such a huge legal cloud behind him.

Nah, let the Eagles pay that price. Watson would go a long way for them - if he can stay on the field. But I'd bet the price they pay would be too much.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Source: Talks are heating up between #Eagles and #Texans on a Deshaun Watson trade. Still some hurdles to get over. But both sides attempting to come to an agreement.

https://twitter.com/ChrisTrapasso

If this happens it would SUCK for the NFCE, He's a top 10 QB easily and in his prime

Top 5 I'd say, and he's just getting started.