The Sam Howell Thread

[REDSKINS4ever]

Originally Posted by sdskinsfan2001

If McLaurin was going to have a down year, then this is the year to have it. This was always going to be a throw-away season. Might as well just sit him for the rest of the season if he's bothered at all by it.

He'll end up with at least 920 yards at the rate he's going.....not bad at all.....he still makes plays and he still scares defenses.

[BaltimoreSkins]

That’s fine but if Sam loses out to a rookie you lose draft capital.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

That’s fine but if Sam loses out to a rookie you lose draft capital.

Not if that rookie kicks ass. Then we just have two good young quarterbacks.

We draft say Williams who beats out Sam. Sam would be worth the same thing he is now.

[skinsfaninok]

If this team gives up on Howell after literally carrying these sorry ass lineman, it would be one of the worst moves Harris could make. The fans would go crazy too. Sam has become a fan favorite and rightfully so. Dude lays it all on the line every game.


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[rocnrik]

Since 2000 there has been 69 QBs taken in first round .
17 were #1 overall pick (the year is listed before name)
01-Vick,02-Carr,03-Palmer,04-E Manning,05-A smith,07-Russell,09-Stafford,10-Bradford,11-Newton,12-Luck,15-Winston,16-Goff,18-Mayfield,19-Murray,20-Burrow,21-Lawrence,23-Young
Out of those picks there is only one sure fire Bust ( Russell) at least 10 elite level and the rest very solid ..

Now it gets interesting.. 6 were number 2 overall picks
12-R Griffin,15-Mariota,16-Wentz,17-Trubisky,21-Z Wilson,23-Cj Stroud …Other than Stroud that is a huge drop off in talent

6 were pick#3
02-Harrington,06-V Young,08-M Ryan,14-Bortles,18-Darnold,21-Lance … One very solid in Ryan
2 were pick#4
04-Rivers,23-Richardson
2 were pick #5
09-Sanchez,20-Tua
2/#6 19-Jones,20-Herbert
2/#7 03-Leftwich,18-J Allen
2/#8 11-locker,12-Tannehill
0/#9
4/#10 06-Leinart ,11-Gabbert,17-Mahomes,18-Rosen
3/#11 04-Big Ben,06-Cutler,21-Fields
2/#12 11-Ponder,17-Watson
0/13
0/14
2/15 19-Haskins,21-M jones
1/16 13-Manual
1/17 09-Freeman
2/18 00-Pennington,08-Flacco
1/19 03-Boller
1/20 22-Pickett
0/21
5/22 03-Grossman,04-Lossman,07-Quinn,14- Manziel,12-Weeden
0/23
1/24 05-A Rogers
2/25 05-J Campbell,10-Tebow
2/26 16-Lynch,20-Love
0/27-31
3/32 02-Ramsey,14-Bridgwater,18-Jackson

Other than The number ONE pick it’s at best a crap shoot picking a Qb in first round …10 QBs from 2cnd pick to 32 pick in first round were elite franchise QB .. and that’s since 2000 (10 out of 52 )

[rocnrik]

this research took some time 😀🥃 hope y’all dig it !

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

this research took some time 😀🥃 hope y’all dig it !

Thanks, good stuff.

[AnonEmouse]

Is it worth pointing out that usually if a new GM/HC comes in, they're often inclined to get their own QB because the incumbent is average or poor? How often has a HC come into a job where they've inherited a good or even great QB, and turfed them out for 'their guy'?

[rocnrik]

Originally Posted by AnonEmouse

Is it worth pointing out that usually if a new GM/HC comes in, they're often inclined to get their own QB because the incumbent is average or poor? How often has a HC come into a job where they've inherited a good or even great QB, and turfed them out for 'their guy'?

You are correct.. However what we have is a Head coach who has been searching for 4 years to find a Qb .. he let the team erode and made so many bad roster decisions that now that Sam is here he is on his way out .. I’m sure Ron wishes he had Sam his first year .. there are a lot of coaches who will like the fact that Sam has allready played a full year in the league .. I’m all about if the TOP can’t miss guy falls to us in a top 5 pick getting him .. I am all against trading up and use assets we need to get someone .. how about letting a team with nobody trade up with us and we land a haul .. like another first rounder and second rounder to drop down a few spots … we could get better really quick!

[rocnrik]

My opinion
Elite level 17 players
2cnd tier 8
Mid pack 15
Below average 13
Bust 13
Too early too tell 3 ( stroud,Bryce young,Richardson )

What is y’all’s opinion ..

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

My opinion
Elite level 17 players
2cnd tier 8
Mid pack 15
Below average 13
Bust 13
Too early too tell 3 ( stroud,Bryce young,Richardson )

What is y’all’s opinion ..

I’d keep Sam for another year unless you can get Caleb Williams some how


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[rocnrik]

Right now the Bears get top pick and they need a QB .. Pats need a QB .. that’s two off the board ..Cards don’t .. the bears get another pick before us ..IF we NEEDED a QB we aren’t gonna get one of the top 2 guys .. if we really really want a chance at one of them then TANK !!! And we still probably won’t get one of them .. the 5th pick is what we are looking at realistically.. So who will be there ??

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by rocnrik

Right now the Bears get top pick and they need a QB .. Pats need a QB .. that’s two off the board ..Cards don’t .. the bears get another pick before us ..IF we NEEDED a QB we aren’t gonna get one of the top 2 guys .. if we really really want a chance at one of them then TANK !!! And we still probably won’t get one of them .. the 5th pick is what we are looking at realistically.. So who will be there ??

The bears won’t pass up on Caleb Williams and the pats won’t pass up on maye. So in my opinion don’t take a QB at 4 or 5. Take the best LT available or trade back and add picks


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[skinsfan69]

Caleb = bust.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Caleb = bust.

He may be but his potential is too great to pass up


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