Skins vs Texans Gameday Thread

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

There were also instances where he either ran into the pressure for no reason (one time it took us out of FG range) or failed to actually step up into the pocket to avoid the pressure. Hopefully he can start correcting this.

Yup. Cannot blame the right side for everything he did wrong. I have not seen any film on the websites that some of you guys watch 22? Or whatever it is. Id be willing to bet he missed more than one throw down field when he had the time to make it. All these things scare me. I mean I understand having your confidence shaken because of the injury, and not wanting to get hit again, but not stepping up - running into pressure- missing reads - not sure That has a whole lot to do with confidence.

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

There were also instances where he either ran into the pressure for no reason (one time it took us out of FG range) or failed to actually step up into the pocket to avoid the pressure. Hopefully he can start correcting this.

This is the part of Griffin's play yesterday that irked me the most. I think it might have something to do with him not trusting the interior blocking. Can't fault him for that, but at least give them a shot instead of backpedaling and taking a sack for a huge loss.

But Joe Flacco took a sack yesterday that put the Ravens out of FG range, so we need to remember it's not just our guy that makes frustrating mistakes.

By the way, Clowney will be out for 4-6 weeks. Let's hope the news on Cofield and Reed is better.

[MTK]

I thought we wanted him to become a pocket passer? Now it's why isn't he running?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I thought we wanted him to become a pocket passer? Now it's why isn't he running?

Personally I want him to THINK when he is in the moment. If a hole opens up and nobody is open than run. I do not want to see him run the read option 15 times a game, but that doesnt mean he cant run.

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Personally I want him to THINK when he is in the moment. If a hole opens up and nobody is open than run. I do not want to see him run the read option 15 times a game, but that doesnt mean he cant run.

Who has time to think when Polumbus is blocking JJ Watts?

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by skinsguy

Who has time to think when Polumbus is blocking JJ Watts?

Listen there were several plays yesterday that JJ Watts would have foiled for any qb in history. Nobody is denying that. BUT - when you have a choice to make between stepping up through the pocket that is collapsing and collapsing with it - you have to step up. When you have a choice to do ANYTHING besides back pedal out of fg range and take a sack you do anything. A great starting qb thinks quickly - and makes the rite decision. JJ Watt or JJ Walker - it shouldnt matter - you CANNOT hold onto the ball for 5-6 seconds when Watt is on the other side.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Listen there were several plays yesterday that JJ Watts would have foiled for any qb in history. Nobody is denying that. BUT - when you have a choice to make between stepping up through the pocket that is collapsing and collapsing with it - you have to step up. When you have a choice to do ANYTHING besides back pedal out of fg range and take a sack you do anything. A great starting qb thinks quickly - and makes the rite decision. JJ Watt or JJ Walker - it shouldnt matter - you CANNOT hold onto the ball for 5-6 seconds when Watt is on the other side.

my uneducated gut instinct is that RG3 is always used to scrambling on a busted play and likes to scramble to the outside where there is more open field, their field is vision is open and they can quickly judge if they can turn the corner or not and they can use the sideline for protection.

i dont think it is natural for a speedy scrambler to step into the mouth of danger/bodies vs getting outside it.

you use speed on the edges.

rg3 is speed.

he isnt big ben. he isnt comfortable stepping into and trusting a pocket. .... yet.

[mooby]

Originally Posted by punch it in

Personally I want him to THINK when he is in the moment. If a hole opens up and nobody is open than run. I do not want to see him run the read option 15 times a game, but that doesnt mean he cant run.

Idk, usually coaches want players to practice so the plays become second nature. If you're taking the time to think while the play is happening, by the time you decide it's already too late. It's the same thing with any other position, if you are thinking instead of naturally reacting you've probably already missed your window.

[punch it in]

Originally Posted by mooby

Idk, usually coaches want players to practice so the plays become second nature. If you're taking the time to think while the play is happening, by the time you decide it's already too late. It's the same thing with any other position, if you are thinking instead of naturally reacting you've probably already missed your window.

You might head out of the huddle with a plan in mind, but after the ball is snapped a QB goes through his reads, maybe decides to scramble, maybe decides to throw it away. This is all i mean. In that few seconds, he has to think fast.
Edit : THOROUGHLY and fast

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I thought we wanted him to become a pocket passer? Now it's why isn't he running?

But that's what makes him what he is. He needs to have 4-5 carries a game where he breaks the back of the defense. There was none of that yesterday. I don't want 2012, but not having him run at all is stupid.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I thought we wanted him to become a pocket passer? Now it's why isn't he running?

You better stop with that sense making bafoonery before you get us all in trouble. Walking around saying logical stuff like that, how dare you sir, how f*&*(&g dare you!!

[MTK]

I don't recall him giving up any clear running opportunities, maybe we're looking a little too far into this right now?

[mredskins]

Any word on Jordan Reed? I heard he might be out for awhile. Groan...

[SirLK26]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Any word on Jordan Reed? I heard he might be out for awhile. Groan...

The icing on the f*cking cake.

[BringBackJoeT]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Any word on Jordan Reed? I heard he might be out for awhile. Groan...

From where? MRI is today, right? Or did it already happen?