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Old 01-09-2019, 12:28 PM   #1
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1.Smith isn't as good as Cousins in Jay's system. JJ and Sanchez are not NFL QBs.

2. Crowder and Richardson were hurt the majority of the year

3. Reed has regressed.

4. Docston at best is a 3rd wr.

5. Some of the other guys... Simms, Quinn, Davis all hurt.

Is Sims just another Marko Mitchell? Or can he develop and learn to be a disciplined NFL wr? Can Davis also develop?
Our QB (Cousins) had multiple HEALTHY years in the system to learn/execute it, getting nearly every single rep in Camp/Practice/Games. He also had way better talent as he was learning that system with Garcon and Jackson. By the time they left he could get the offense going with lesser talented players.

We had none of that this year and a whole lot of injuries to go with it.
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:48 PM   #2
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Our QB (Cousins) had multiple HEALTHY years in the system to learn/execute it, getting nearly every single rep in Camp/Practice/Games. He also had way better talent as he was learning that system with Garcon and Jackson. By the time they left he could get the offense going with lesser talented players.

We had none of that this year and a whole lot of injuries to go with it.
I agree with both you and Skins69...

Cousins had just as many injuries along the Oline and receiver...and possibly had worst receiving talent.

But being in Jay's system as a vet certainly benefited him.

I think with our QB situation we need to add talent at Oline, add another quick Vet at Receiver...draft another Receiver mid round. But move the team in a "running game" type offense...while bringing the passing game along.
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Old 01-09-2019, 02:10 PM   #3
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1.Smith isn't as good as Cousins in Jay's system. JJ and Sanchez are not NFL QBs.

2. Crowder and Richardson were hurt the majority of the year

3. Reed has regressed.

4. Docston at best is a 3rd wr.

5. Some of the other guys... Simms, Quinn, Davis all hurt.

Is Sims just another Marko Mitchell? Or can he develop and learn to be a disciplined NFL wr? Can Davis also develop?
This sums it all up
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Old 01-09-2019, 12:25 PM   #4
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Can someone tell me ultimately who was responsible for the passing game taking a major step back from when Cousins was here?

Who are you putting this on?...it seems to me everyone gives a pass from the folks here.

No clue why...Especially with the fact AP and the running game seemed to be better.
The team's approach was to be more conservative with the passing game and to take care of the ball; that approach worked through 9 games, until Alex Smith went down. The running game improved, because the team had few turnovers, controlled the time of possession, and the defense was doing a good job.
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The team's approach was to be more conservative with the passing game and to take care of the ball; that approach worked through 9 games, until Alex Smith went down. The running game improved, because the team had few turnovers, controlled the time of possession, and the defense was doing a good job.


Alex Smith was there when we got our asses whooped by Atlanta. He was there when we couldn’t do shit against Tampa - but they pulled a Redskin and handed us the game on a silver platter. He was there and doing absolutely nothing against Houston - it was Colt who came in and sparked us when he went down. Basically for about a month before he got hurt we were on life support. The Alex Smith led Redskins were trending down hard well before he got injured.
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Alex Smith was there when we got our asses whooped by Atlanta. He was there when we couldn’t do shit against Tampa - but they pulled a Redskin and handed us the game on a silver platter. He was there and doing absolutely nothing against Houston - it was Colt who came in and sparked us when he went down. Basically for about a month before he got hurt we were on life support. The Alex Smith led Redskins were trending down hard well before he got injured.
This.. if I hear " but we were 6-3 before Smith got hurt" one more time I may puke.
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This.. if I hear " but we were 6-3 before Smith got hurt" one more time I may puke.
I agree with you 100%. For being "6-3", we were probably the worst 6-3 team you've ever saw. Smith was doing jack shit and like other people pointed out, we had already gotten major ass whoopings with Smith at the helm.

I still don't think we would have made the playoffs the way we were playing, but it's possible we would have done it at 8-8 if we had some luck / help. Even when Smith was healthy, i did not see us winning more than 9 games due to the coaching, as well as the injuries.

Half of the games he started, he passed for under 200 yards and was held to 1 TD. Maybe he would have gotten better as the season went on, but it actually looks like stat wise he started regressing after the NO game. He had over 300 yards against Atlanta but that was due to garbage time.
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The Browns have relieved defensive coordinator Gregg Williams of his duties and he is no longer with the team, sources tell

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-in-cleveland/

Gregg Williams done in Cleveland...go get him NOW
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Jay would never be comfortable w/ a coach like Williams.
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Jay would never be comfortable w/ a coach like Williams.
Williams wouldn't put up with his shit or the clown show in the front office. We should still try to land him. We need someone with some balls on the sidelines...eff it, I want to see Williams out there punching people...full chaos.
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Williams wouldn't put up with his shit or the clown show in the front office. We should still try to land him. We need someone with some balls on the sidelines...eff it, I want to see Williams out there punching people...full chaos.
Williams created his own shit show with the whole bounty scandal and he was basically exiled from the NFL for a few seasons.

I'm all for change, but we can get a competent DC without bringing someone who has created his own shit show before.
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Williams wouldn't put up with his shit or the clown show in the front office. We should still try to land him. We need someone with some balls on the sidelines...eff it, I want to see Williams out there punching people...full chaos.
That's what I mean. He's going to be no nonsense and Jay just isn't that hard ass kind of guy. He wants someone that can go along with his personality and isn't a threat to him more than he wants results.
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Based on lack of action on defense side by Gruden, I think we need to start accepting the fact that we are sticking with Manusky.
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Based on lack of action on defense side by Gruden, I think we need to start accepting the fact that we are sticking with Manusky.
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