The perfect trade for Ramsey

[dmek25]

moulds is on the older side.i like to see the skins take a chance on mike williams of the lions,but dont know if that trade for ramsey could work.good hands and could be a possesion receiver in this league

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by dmek25

moulds is on the older side.i like to see the skins take a chance on mike williams of the lions,but dont know if that trade for ramsey could work.good hands and could be a possesion receiver in this league

do you really think detroit will part with a first rounder after just 1 year? with the same GM in place? they would pillory millen for doing that.

[That Guy]

mike williams is terriblly slow, i'm actually kinda glad we skipped him. We still could have gotten a legit CB lower (Darrent williams, DF) and taken merriman :P but hindsight is 20/20

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by That Guy

mike williams is terriblly slow, i'm actually kinda glad we skipped him. We still could have gotten a legit CB lower (Darrent williams, DF) and taken merriman :P but hindsight is 20/20

yes merriman was a great pick but remember we had great need at corner and i think rogers is going to turn out to be a great pick

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by shallyshal

yes merriman was a great pick but remember we had great need at corner and i think rogers is going to turn out to be a great pick

yeah but like i said, foxworth and darrent Williams went much later than our next pick and are both quality and neither has been out as much as rogers this year.

[Redskin]

So if we get rid of Ramsey (who i dont mind) when the old man brunnell breaks his hip we have soup boy (cambell), whos never played an NFL game before come and try to pick up the pieces that will be scattered all over the floor and we will have a devisating losing season

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Redskin

So if we get rid of Ramsey (who i dont mind) when the old man brunnell breaks his hip we have soup boy (cambell), whos never played an NFL game before come and try to pick up the pieces that will be scattered all over the floor and we will have a devisating losing season

if we trade or dump ramsey for certain we are gonna pick up a vet as insurance. maybe gus. maybe dilfer. maybe batch... someone with experience as a hedge

[MTK]

Reality is the Dolphins were stupid in giving up a 2nd rounder for the unproven Feeley.

I highly doubt we would be able to get a 2nd for Ramsey, if we can well that's great, but I'd be very happy with a 3rd.

[jdlea]

All of this debate is IMO the reason that we should have dealt him right after we got Brunell. I read a lot of articles from a lot different papers, Dallas in particular, that said that teams should consider giving up a first rounder for him. I thought then that he should have been traded and I feel even stronger now that his trade value has diminished a bit. We should have gotten a first rounder for him then and signed a veteran. Joe Gibbs knew then that he didn't want Pat to be the starter, I don't know why the Skins insisted on hanging on to him for so long and not letting him get a shot. If I were Ramsey, I wouldn't want to come back.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by jdlea

All of this debate is IMO the reason that we should have dealt him right after we got Brunell. I read a lot of articles from a lot different papers, Dallas in particular, that said that teams should consider giving up a first rounder for him. I thought then that he should have been traded and I feel even stronger now that his trade value has diminished a bit. We should have gotten a first rounder for him then and signed a veteran. Joe Gibbs knew then that he didn't want Pat to be the starter, I don't know why the Skins insisted on hanging on to him for so long and not letting him get a shot. If I were Ramsey, I wouldn't want to come back.

That sounds good now but what if Brunell had been out for the year when he took that hit? Then Campbell would have been the starter for the rest of that game and the Philly game. I think that the team would have been better off with Ramsey as the #2 in that situation.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Grim21Reaper

That sounds good now but what if Brunell had been out for the year when he took that hit? Then Campbell would have been the starter for the rest of that game and the Philly game. I think that the team would have been better off with Ramsey as the #2 in that situation.

Yeah, but if they had dealt Ramsey last season then they would have had a veteran backup to Brunell. I see what you're saying, but I think that if they had gotten rid of Ramsey then, there's no way Gibbs wouldn't have looked to replace him with a vet.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Reality is the Dolphins were stupid in giving up a 2nd rounder for the unproven Feeley.

I highly doubt we would be able to get a 2nd for Ramsey, if we can well that's great, but I'd be very happy with a 3rd.

Exactly.. The Dolphins got killed for that deal. I'd love for a team to give us a 2nd for him and would gladly be wrong, but I think a third rounder is the best we can hope for.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Reality is the Dolphins were stupid in giving up a 2nd rounder for the unproven Feeley.

I highly doubt we would be able to get a 2nd for Ramsey, if we can well that's great, but I'd be very happy with a 3rd.

i'd have to agree with that.

[shallyshal]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Reality is the Dolphins were stupid in giving up a 2nd rounder for the unproven Feeley.

I highly doubt we would be able to get a 2nd for Ramsey, if we can well that's great, but I'd be very happy with a 3rd.

the dolphins got hosed. no doubt about that.

then again we traded schroeder to the raiders for jim lachey. ramsey might do well with their vertical offense. or whatever offense they put in with their next coach... he does have the kind of arm that al davis covets