Does Ramsey Have Some Trade Control?

[That Guy]

daunte, brees, and mcnair are probably staying.

[irish]

Sorry, I thought he was a FA.

I do think that PR will do whatever he needs to do to get out of DC. He knows he's going nowhere here and he has a silly notion that he can actually start in the NFL (I'm not sure he can even be a good backup) so he will have to do what he needs to do (contractually) to try to become a starter somewhere.

[freddyg12]

Does anyone know what we get if he leaves as a free agent?
In the current cba, teams are awarded extra draft picks based on free agent departures. I can't recall the term for this, but I wonder what we'd get for losing a former 1st rounder?

[Monksdown]

That's a good question. I would think most of the value would be based on worth, not where he was drafted.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Does anyone know what we get if he leaves as a free agent?
In the current cba, teams are awarded extra draft picks based on free agent departures. I can't recall the term for this, but I wonder what we'd get for losing a former 1st rounder?

I think its based on who you lose and who you get in free agency as well as the production of the guys that left.

those picks are 3rd-6th rounders and decided on behind closed doors and i'd assume with ESP and arcane powers of some sort.

[MTK]

I think Ramsey will bring much more than a 6th rounder.

A 2nd rounder would be ideal but is probably unlikely.

A 3rd or a 4th is pretty reasonable. At this point I'd take what I could get for him... he deserves the chance to start new somewhere else and he's outta here after this year anyway.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think Ramsey will bring much more than a 6th rounder.

A 2nd rounder would be ideal but is probably unlikely.

A 3rd or a 4th is pretty reasonable. At this point I'd take what I could get for him... he deserves the chance to start new somewhere else and he's outta here after this year anyway.

If Ramsey will sign an extension with our trade partner, I think you are on the money.

Brees and Culpepper cloud the picture but if their teams aren't going to protect them, coming off surgeries, maybe they know something. There's no health question mark after Ramsey's name.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think Ramsey will bring much more than a 6th rounder.

A 2nd rounder would be ideal but is probably unlikely.

A 3rd or a 4th is pretty reasonable. At this point I'd take what I could get for him... he deserves the chance to start new somewhere else and he's outta here after this year anyway.

I am torn with the decision to trade him, first I as you know believe he should be starting, I also believe that if Campbell is asked to run the team next season we are sunk for the year while he learns. But I do agree that Patrick has earned the right to move on, he could have really forced the issue last season and become a real distraction for the team, and know one would have blamed him, but he didn't, he towed the company line and for the sake of the team he clamed up, but I don't believe after what happened to him last year that there is a promise that Gibbs could make to him to make him happy in DC, not even if Gibbs told him he was his starter going into this season, I doubt Patrick would trust him. Yet if someone would tell you today that Brunell was going down for the season in the first game, would you then trade Ramsey now for anything less than a second? I wouldn't trade him for a late first round pick knowing that.

[MTK]

If someone told me today that Brunell would miss the majority of next year and Campbell was forced into action I'd rather live with that over seeing Ramsey play a lame duck season.

Campbell is the future, Ramsey's future with the team is over.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

If someone told me today that Brunell would miss the majority of next year and Campbell was forced into action I'd rather live with that over seeing Ramsey play a lame duck season.

Campbell is the future, Ramsey's future with the team is over.

There is a lot of support for a player [Campbell] who is yet to take a snap in the NFL, compared to a player who when Gibbs arrived, and before he announced he was going after Brunell, most here as well as around the NFL believed that Patrick would become a very good QB in the NFL once he got away from the SS protection schemes. To bad he never recieved a fair shot at proving that.

Campbell? Well what we hear coming out in practice sounds great, but anyone with athletic ability can look good in practice, Vinney testaverde would still put most QB's to shame in practice, playing and reading defenses in live action that's a whole nother ball game, I hope it works out but to many people believe this kid is something special based on 1 good senior year in college, the NFL is a long way from Auburn and a pro-bowl backfield.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by offiss

Campbell? Well what we hear coming out in practice sounds great, but anyone with athletic ability can look good in practice, Vinney testaverde would still put most QB's to shame in practice, playing and reading defenses in live action that's a whole nother ball game, I hope it works out but to many people believe this kid is something special based on 1 good senior year in college, the NFL is a long way from Auburn and a pro-bowl backfield.

Well, there's only one way we're going to find out.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well, there's only one way we're going to find out.

Especially since he'll be playing in Washington with a Pro Bowl backfield (Portis/Cooley '07).

[offiss]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

Especially since he'll be playing in Washington with a Pro Bowl backfield (Portis/Cooley '07).

Theres a slight difference, when you have pro bowl caliber players in a college backfield compared to NFL pro bowl backfield. Campbell had 2 of the best backs in college behind him, Portis is NOT a top 5 back in the NFL!

[MTK]

Portis was 4th in the NFL in rushing last year, so based on that yes he is a top 5 back!

What more do we want from the guy??

[Sean Taylor is God]

Gibbs raves about his pass-blocking and physicality which are often overlooked. He is definitely top 5