Predict our first major player acquisition

Defensewins · 03-09-2006, 01:11 PM

Hey let's not forget Issac Bruce.
Seriuosly though, the guy keeps himself in Darrel Green shape and lives a clean life style. We saw how long D. Green was able to play. If we can get him for a good price, he will want to come here and play for Gibbs and Saunders.

onlydarksets · 03-09-2006, 01:12 PM

Randle El is not the type of WR we need. I'm not sure about Givens - I don't know that I want the entire Patriots WR corp (personal reasons - I don't like the Pats). Bruce could take some pressure off of Moss, but he doesn't seem like a long term solution.

I think we're going to be OK at LB - not spectacular, but Marshall and Washington can hold it down, with role players filling in the last slot. DE would be great, but can we really get any of these guys? (I'm not familiar with Howard)

Law is too injury prone lately and probably will be looking for more $$ than we can afford for a backup. Archuleta would be a sweet addition, but I think our secondary will be most improved by increasing the pass rush.

So, I'm voting Bruce - he's a short term solution, granted.

Elfsdad · 03-09-2006, 01:26 PM

I'm pimping for Nate Burleson again. He's young and he's proven that he can catch balls as a #2 receiver. Danny just needs to throw a reasonable amount of cash at him to see if the Vikings blink. I think they're more intent on keeping Koren Robinson, an unrestricted free agent.

"Jeff Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports the Minnesota Vikings placed the lowest tender offer on restricted free agent WR Nate Burleson. He was given a tender offer that is worth $712,000 and would result in the team getting a draft pick equal to the round in which Burleson was selected (third) if he goes elsewhere. Burleson's agent, Jack Scharf, did not seem discouraged by the Vikings' offer. "Negotiations will be ongoing to see if we can get a long-term deal for Nate," Scharf said. "More will come to light pending a ratification of the collective bargaining agreement." He is ranked fourth among the available free-agent receivers by Scout.com. Cleveland, San Diego and San Francisco are three teams with salary cap space that might be interested in Burleson.

That Guy · 03-09-2006, 01:25 PM

we have enough money for one big signing possibly... guys like bruce and dyson are on a second monetary tier compared to mathis or kampman. howard would be the cheap stopgap solution.

Defensewins · 03-09-2006, 01:26 PM

Filling the hole at SS with a muti-dimensional player that has size/speed and is partucularly strong against the run will solidify our Defense more than any other position.
Our DE's are servicable and are strong against the run. We can get a cheap one dimensional pass rush DE to sub in on obvious pass situations, we do not need a star DE.
I still have bad memories of our SS Clark getting run over and embarrased badly by Bucs FB Alstot in the playoffs. There were 3 or 4 other instances in the regular season that Lott looked bad against the run. The #1 reponsibility the SS position has to be a strong agressive tackler, Lott at 5' 10" and 195 pounds is good in coverage but will not cut it as a run stopper. I also worry Archuleta, while he is a good tackler and agressive against the run, may also be too small. If we had another 6' 2" 225 pound hitter to compliment Taylor, teams would think twice about running the ball or throwing down the middle. Our D would be strong.
Look at how much Sean Taylor helped elevate our defense to top 3 status. Just like when others were screaming and upset when we did not get TE KWII this is another opportunity to solidify our Defense for years to come. Our corners are set, Safety would round it out.

SmootSmack · 03-09-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Filling the hole at SS with a muti-dimensional player that has size/speed and is partucularly strong against the run will solidify our Defense more than any other position.
Our DE's are servicable and are strong against the run. We can get a cheap one dimensional pass rush DE to sub in on obvious pass situations, we do not need a star DE.
I still have bad memories of our SS Clark getting run over and embarrased badly by Bucs FB Alstot in the playoffs. There were 3 or 4 other instances in the regular season that Lott looked bad against the run. The #1 reponsibility the SS position has to be a strong agressive tackler, Lott at 5' 10" and 195 pounds is good in coverage but will not cut it as a run stopper. I also worry Archuleta, while he is a good tackler and agressive against the run, may also be too small. If we had another 6' 2" 225 pound hitter to compliment Taylor, teams would think twice about running the ball or throwing down the middle. Our D would be strong.
Look at how much Sean Taylor helped elevate our defense to top 3 status. Just like when others were screaming and upset when we did not get TE KWII this is another opportunity to solidify our Defense for years to come. Our corners are set, Safety would round it out.

I'd like a big safety like Tank Williams here. Marlon McCree is good too, but a bit undersized I think. A lot of people are talking about let's make sure we re-sign Ryan Clark, but I'm actually a bit more concerned we might lose Omar Stoutmire.

Defensewins · 03-09-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'd like a big safety like Tank Williams here. Marlon McCree is good too, but a bit undersized I think. A lot of people are talking about let's make sure we re-sign Ryan Clark, but I'm actually a bit more concerned we might lose Omar Stoutmire.

Yeah, I am a Tank Williams fan as well. We could get a great deal for him if he is recovered.
He came back early (8 or 9 months) after ACL surgery last offseason and still started every game last year. Understandably he played below his high level, and he had a high salary so the team cut him this offseason.
That kind of injury take at least a year to come back from, I willing to bet he is ready to play at his fomer level. We could get him for cheap, try him out this summer and see what he has left. He is listed at 6' 3" and 225, but Iwould say he is closer to 235. He is a big hitter.

That Guy · 03-09-2006, 02:06 PM

lott's been gone for over a year now

onlydarksets · 03-09-2006, 02:12 PM

Walker isn't listed on this list:
http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?null

MTK · 03-09-2006, 02:30 PM

Seems to me we debated all last offseason about needing a big WR last year and look what happened, Moss sets the team record for receiving.

What I want is a productive WR across from Moss, regardless of height, which is vastly overrated if you ask me.

SmootSmack · 03-09-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

What I want is a productive WR across from Moss, regardless of height, which is vastly overrated if you ask me.

you beat me to it. I completely agree with you

PSUSkinsFan21 · 03-09-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seems to me we debated all last offseason about needing a big WR last year and look what happened, Moss sets the team record for receiving.

What I want is a productive WR across from Moss, regardless of height, which is vastly overrated if you ask me.

Oh come on Matty, just look at how big of a game changer Mike Williams was last year with all that size

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That Guy · 03-09-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seems to me we debated all last offseason about needing a big WR last year and look what happened, Moss sets the team record for receiving.

What I want is a productive WR across from Moss, regardless of height, which is vastly overrated if you ask me.

thats what we should be preaching. production. TEs are much bigger than big WRs, if you really want red zone threats, the TEs in this draft (near our pick) are probably better at getting yards and catches than the projected 2nd round WRs.

Huddle · 03-09-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

thats what we should be preaching. production. TEs are much bigger than big WRs, if you really want red zone threats, the TEs in this draft (near our pick) are probably better at getting yards and catches than the projected 2nd round WRs.

Right. And, bear in mind that tall WRs, especially those with a good vertical leap, make better red zone threats than little guys like Santana who is better at stretching the field for you.

PWNED · 03-09-2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Seems to me we debated all last offseason about needing a big WR last year and look what happened, Moss sets the team record for receiving.

What I want is a productive WR across from Moss, regardless of height, which is vastly overrated if you ask me.

i dont care about height so much as i care about toughness. i want someone to be able to go across the middle and not worry about them getting up after a shot.

View Poll Results: The Redskins' first acquisition (either through free agency or trade) will be...
WR Antwaan Randle El	23	15.65%
WR David Givens	12	8.16%
WR Isaac Bruce	31	21.09%
LB Julian Peterson	12	8.16%
LB Will Witherspoon	9	6.12%
DE John Abraham	17	11.56%
DE Darren Howard	9	6.12%
DE Trevor Pryce	3	2.04%
CB Ty Law	0	0%
CB Nate Clements	1	0.68%
S Adam Archuleta	17	11.56%
DT Rocky Bernard	1	0.68%
Other	12	8.16%
Voters: 147. You may not vote on this poll

03-09-2006, 01:26 PM	#3
Elfsdad Camp Scrub Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bloomfield, NJ Age: 63 Posts: 11	Re: Predict our first major player acquisition I'm pimping for Nate Burleson again. He's young and he's proven that he can catch balls as a #2 receiver. Danny just needs to throw a reasonable amount of cash at him to see if the Vikings blink. I think they're more intent on keeping Koren Robinson, an unrestricted free agent. "Jeff Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports the Minnesota Vikings placed the lowest tender offer on restricted free agent WR Nate Burleson. He was given a tender offer that is worth $712,000 and would result in the team getting a draft pick equal to the round in which Burleson was selected (third) if he goes elsewhere. Burleson's agent, Jack Scharf, did not seem discouraged by the Vikings' offer. "Negotiations will be ongoing to see if we can get a long-term deal for Nate," Scharf said. "More will come to light pending a ratification of the collective bargaining agreement." He is ranked fourth among the available free-agent receivers by Scout.com. Cleveland, San Diego and San Francisco are three teams with salary cap space that might be interested in Burleson. __________________ "Come on, Sandy baby, loosen up. You're too tight."

03-09-2006, 01:25 PM	#4
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Predict our first major player acquisition we have enough money for one big signing possibly... guys like bruce and dyson are on a second monetary tier compared to mathis or kampman. howard would be the cheap stopgap solution.

03-09-2006, 01:26 PM	#5
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,767	Re: Predict our first major player acquisition Filling the hole at SS with a muti-dimensional player that has size/speed and is partucularly strong against the run will solidify our Defense more than any other position. Our DE's are servicable and are strong against the run. We can get a cheap one dimensional pass rush DE to sub in on obvious pass situations, we do not need a star DE. I still have bad memories of our SS Clark getting run over and embarrased badly by Bucs FB Alstot in the playoffs. There were 3 or 4 other instances in the regular season that Lott looked bad against the run. The #1 reponsibility the SS position has to be a strong agressive tackler, Lott at 5' 10" and 195 pounds is good in coverage but will not cut it as a run stopper. I also worry Archuleta, while he is a good tackler and agressive against the run, may also be too small. If we had another 6' 2" 225 pound hitter to compliment Taylor, teams would think twice about running the ball or throwing down the middle. Our D would be strong. Look at how much Sean Taylor helped elevate our defense to top 3 status. Just like when others were screaming and upset when we did not get TE KWII this is another opportunity to solidify our Defense for years to come. Our corners are set, Safety would round it out.

03-09-2006, 02:06 PM	#8
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	Re: Predict our first major player acquisition lott's been gone for over a year now

03-09-2006, 01:11 PM	#1
Defensewins Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,767	Re: Predict our first major player acquisition Hey let's not forget Issac Bruce. Seriuosly though, the guy keeps himself in Darrel Green shape and lives a clean life style. We saw how long D. Green was able to play. If we can get him for a good price, he will want to come here and play for Gibbs and Saunders.

03-09-2006, 01:12 PM	#2
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: Predict our first major player acquisition Randle El is not the type of WR we need. I'm not sure about Givens - I don't know that I want the entire Patriots WR corp (personal reasons - I don't like the Pats). Bruce could take some pressure off of Moss, but he doesn't seem like a long term solution. I think we're going to be OK at LB - not spectacular, but Marshall and Washington can hold it down, with role players filling in the last slot. DE would be great, but can we really get any of these guys? (I'm not familiar with Howard) Law is too injury prone lately and probably will be looking for more $$ than we can afford for a backup. Archuleta would be a sweet addition, but I think our secondary will be most improved by increasing the pass rush. So, I'm voting Bruce - he's a short term solution, granted. __________________ Stop reading my signature.

03-09-2006, 02:12 PM	#9
onlydarksets Playmaker Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: all up in your business Posts: 2,693	Re: Predict our first major player acquisition Walker isn't listed on this list: http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?null __________________ Stop reading my signature.

03-09-2006, 02:30 PM	#10
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	Re: Predict our first major player acquisition Seems to me we debated all last offseason about needing a big WR last year and look what happened, Moss sets the team record for receiving. What I want is a productive WR across from Moss, regardless of height, which is vastly overrated if you ask me. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

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