Who starts at QB?

[firstdown]

It seems as the coaches around the NFL agree with Gibbs.

[warriorzpath]

Why do we keep beating a Maurice Clarrett ... um I mean dead horse ?... get it bronco... horse... you know a bronco's a h... forget it, I guess the joke aint funny if you have to explain it.

[SamSneed36]

I think Brunell being injured played a part in his stuggling, of course. Lets also remember that Portis was banged up at the end of the season, Randy Thomas was out, and Moss was pretty much our only WR. Brunell will start, I cant wait to see Campbell take over, but he needs to be ready and I dont see much need to rush him. With our sick new WR corps Brunell will be able to get rid of the ball much faster and there wont be nearly as much pressure on him.

[Defensewins]

NObody including Gibbs and staff know yet what the ranking of the QB's will be in 06. It would be stupid for them to say anything in March. Who the hell cares what some journalism major is saying in the press in March.
Let training camp and preseason happen then rank them. No more premature 1/4backcation please.
Also NOBODY knows if Campbell is ready or will be ready in August. We will see said the blind man.

Regarding Ramsey:
I remember a TV interview with Gibbs when he first came back to the Redskins. He said he spent a month doing nothing but looking at the previous seasons tape to grade the Spurrier players. One of the first moves he did was get Brunnell and told him he had a great chance to be the starter. Gibbs always had doubts about Ramsey. It is nothing personal, it is just some flaw in ramseys game and this at a very important position.
It is not that Gibbs loves Brunnell so much or thinks he is the 'answer', after all Gibbs drafted a QB in the first round the very next year.
The Ramsey fans should not get their panty's in a bunch if a hall of fame coach does not like a certain player unproven player that can't turn it around in four years..

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Regarding Ramsey:
I remember a TV interview with Gibbs when he first came back to the Redskins. He said he spent a month doing nothing but looking at the previous seasons tape to grade the Spurrier players. One of the first moves he did was get Brunnell and told him he had a great chance to be the starter. Gibbs always had doubts about Ramsey. It is nothing personal, it is some flaw in ramseys game and this at a very important position.
The Ramsey fans should not get their panty's in a bunch if a hall of fame coach does not like a certain player.

And don't forget the year before Bugel was with the team for a little bit as a "consultant" So I'm sure he got a chance to watch Ramsey up close and offer his input to Gibbs as well

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Regarding Ramsey: I remember a TV interview with Gibbs when he first came back to the Redskins. He said he spent a month doing nothing but looking at the previous seasons tape to grade the Spurrier players. One of the first moves he did was get Brunnell and told him he had a great chance to be the starter. Gibbs always had doubts about Ramsey. It is nothing personal, it is just some flaw in ramseys game and this at a very important position..

It's not as though you're revealing a state secret. Many of us knew that Ramsey's days were numbered when we found out how much they were paying Brunell.

It doesn't take a football genius to figure out what Joe saw that he didn't like either. Ramsey was a young quarterback who threw too many interceptions. Joe has zero patience with that.

We have to wonder if Joe would have benched Bradshaw, Elway, and Favre also since their TD to INT ratios were worse than Ramsey's at the same stage of their careers.

As it turned out though, Ramsey was lucky. If Gibbs had started him in 2004, he would have looked as bad as Brunell in that inept offense and his career would have been totally in the toilet. At least he got a chance to show something in the final seven games when the offense began to get its act together.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Huddle

As it turned out though, Ramsey was lucky. If Gibbs had started him in 2004, he would have looked as bad as Brunell in that inept offense and his career would have been totally in the toilet. At least he got a chance to show something in the final seven games when the offense began to get its act together.

Funny you mention that, because it's been brought up here before (before you joined) that if Ramsey had been thrown into the fire like that there is the very real possibility that it would have destroyed him. And yet Gibbs chose not to put him through that...but people still want to believe Gibbs has personal vendetta against Ramsey.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

Funny you mention that, because it's been brought up here before (before you joined) that if Ramsey had been thrown into the fire like that there is the very real possibility that it would have destroyed him. And yet Gibbs chose not to put him through that...but people still want to believe Gibbs has personal vendetta against Ramsey.

Well, I thought of it when it happened. I was in Ramsey's corner but the handwriting was on the wall in preseason. The offense just wasn't working. Brunell or Ramsey...it wouldn't have made any difference.

I don't know that Joe planned it that way to save Patrick's confidence but it worked in his favor.

[Huddle]

Schneed 10, sorry for the delayed response. I didn't see your post until now.

That statement right there is a contender for the Schneed10 smackdown of the day award.

Oh no! Not the dreaded smackdown award!

Some dumbass in Green Bay? Um at the time, that would have been Mike Holmgren. And at the time, he let Brunell go because HE HAD BRETT FAVRE. Who only led the team to a Super Bowl victory, of all things.

Yeah...and if you have two very good quarterbacks on your team the smart thing to do is to trade one?

Jesus H Christ. I can't believe what I'm reading.

You forgot the three exclamation points.

But let's go with the Green Bay comparison for a minute.

Let's not since the rest of your post involves hypotheticals based on the unsupported premise that a team with two good quarterbacks should trade one away.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Huddle

Schneed 10, sorry for the delayed response. I didn't see your post until now.

That statement right there is a contender for the Schneed10 smackdown of the day award.

Oh no! Not the dreaded smackdown award!

Some dumbass in Green Bay? Um at the time, that would have been Mike Holmgren. And at the time, he let Brunell go because HE HAD BRETT FAVRE. Who only led the team to a Super Bowl victory, of all things.

Yeah...and if you have two very good quarterbacks on your team the smart thing to do is to trade one?

Jesus H Christ. I can't believe what I'm reading.

You forgot the three exclamation points.

But let's go with the Green Bay comparison for a minute.

Let's not since the rest of your post involves hypotheticals based on the unsupported premise that a team with two good quarterbacks should trade one away.

and your posts just assume that for some reason ramsey is great.

[Huddle]

Originally Posted by That Guy

and your posts just assume that for some reason ramsey is great.

Nope.

[That Guy]

i don't think anyone mentioned this, so i thought i'd bring it up...

ramsey was robbed and brunell sucks.

discuss.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by That Guy

i don't think anyone mentioned this, so i thought i'd bring it up...

ramsey was robbed and brunell sucks.

discuss.

Are you trying to be funny!?!? No, seriously I don't get it :confused:

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Are you trying to be funny!?!? No, seriously I don't get it :confused:

ramsey is gone regardless of whatever's happen, so i have no idea why we're still devoting meaningless 200 post threads to him and if he is or isn't great. He played good in some games and average in more and now he may be a career backup who can't even get us a 5th round pick.

there are still people who swear jeff george can play, I know people get attached to certain players, but its over, he's gone, and its time to move on.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Can someone plllleeeaaaassssseeee tell me whether we would save money if we cut Brunell?