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[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I Have Faith. Go Skins!

I'm with you hess! Unfortunately, believers are a dying breed here.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

I'm with you hess! Unfortunately, believers are a dying breed here.

"Believers" and fans are two different things. Believers are the type of people that think everything is fine, and Washington will be 13-3 or 12-4 at the worst at the end of this season. I actually heard that from a few people after the Giants game.

I am a die hard FAN of this team, and as much as I want them to win, I can also see their limitations. I commend believers for being able to maintain faith, but it's also a bit far fetched to think this team is performing anywhere close to championship level.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

"Believers" and fans are two different things. Believers are the type of people that think everything is fine, and Washington will be 13-3 or 12-4 at the worst at the end of this season. I actually heard that from a few people after the Giants game.

I am a die hard FAN of this team, and as much as I want them to win, I can also see their limitations. I commend believers for being able to maintain faith, but it's also a bit far fetched to think this team is performing anywhere close to championship level.

When I was growing up (back in the old Gibbs days), my father used to call the Redskins the “Heart Attack Skins”. .because they always seemed to come from behind.. it never seemed that easy.. and it was always stressful. It's how this team is. For some reason, it's our fate I think. Fight on, Fight on until you have won!!!! I HAVE FAITH!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

When I was growing up (back in the old Gibbs days), my father used to call the Redskins the “Heart Attack Skins”. .because they always seemed to come from behind.. it never seemed that easy.. and it was always stressful. It's how this team is. For some reason, it's our fate I think. Fight on, Fight on until you have won!!!! I HAVE FAITH!

If you'll look at my post in another thread, you'll see that "come from behind" is not in Mark Brunell's vocabulary.

http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-l...tml#post226686

And I will always hold hope that Washington will turn things around, but blind faith is something I haven't had in more than a decade.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

"Believers" and fans are two different things. Believers are the type of people that think everything is fine, and Washington will be 13-3 or 12-4 at the worst at the end of this season. I actually heard that from a few people after the Giants game.

I am a die hard FAN of this team, and as much as I want them to win, I can also see their limitations. I commend believers for being able to maintain faith, but it's also a bit far fetched to think this team is performing anywhere close to championship level.

Don't think people like hess, Matty, and myself (among others) don't realize we're not playing well. Or that there are several areas in which we have to improve. But we "believe" it can be done. There are plenty of people who have thrown in the towel. And that's fine, I choose not to be that way.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Southpaw

"Believers" and fans are two different things. Believers are the type of people that think everything is fine, and Washington will be 13-3 or 12-4 at the worst at the end of this season. I actually heard that from a few people after the Giants game.

I am a die hard FAN of this team, and as much as I want them to win, I can also see their limitations. I commend believers for being able to maintain faith, but it's also a bit far fetched to think this team is performing anywhere close to championship level.

I could not disagree more.
My son's freshman HS team had a big "come from behind" win last thursday against a vaunted rival. With time RAPIDLY running out, the coach called the often used option play which the QB tossed to the wide out who then beat two tackles and took it to the hole (53 yards). During the last few minutes in the stands, 300ish parents generated the noise of 3000. Do they believe this team is championship caliber? Do we think their perfect? Do we think they don't need changes? No, just an average HS team. We are fans and, as such, refuse to give up. Nothing is gained from trying to pick apart all that is good or can be. Something can be gained from continued support, and teams can be inspired or willed to greatness through others.
It is the same for my Redskins. Believer? Hardly. Fan? Definately

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by Hog1

I could not disagree more.
My son's freshman HS team had a big "come from behind" win last thursday against a vaunted rival. With time RAPIDLY running out, the coach called the often used option play which the QB tossed to the wide out who then beat two tackles and took it to the hole (53 yards). During the last few minutes in the stands, 300ish parents generated the noise of 3000. Do they believe this team is championship caliber? Do we think their perfect? Do we think they don't need changes? No, just an average HS team. We are fans and, as such, refuse to give up. Nothing is gained from trying to pick apart all that is good or can be. Something can be gained from continued support, and teams can be inspired or willed to greatness through others.
It is the same for my Redskins. Believer? Hardly. Fan? Definately

That's getting into a bit of symantics because all believers are inherently fans, but not all fans are believers. And I would imagine that a parent whose kids team pulled off something great like that would go crazy, but I'm also sure most of them don't know enough about the other teams in the league, or the even the inner workings of their kids team to make any kind of educated analysis about it's ability.

[BrunellMVP?]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I Have Faith. Go Skins!

tough to argue with such elegantly constructed arguments...

Believe all you want, but i'm of the trust but verify camp...as in, i trust that brunell is still a capable QB, however, the results indicate otherwise. same can be said for the skins as a team...

[Hog1]

Actually, I believe it is the "Cardiac Skins"

[JoeRedskin]

I "believe" the Skins' will play this weekend. Beyond that, I make no further predictions. I call this a Martyball Prediction.

[hesscl34]

.. remind me never to watch a game with you. Negative energy like yours only hurts the team. You must focus and have postive thoughts!!

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

.. remind me never to watch a game with you. Negative energy like yours only hurts the team. You must focus and have postive thoughts!!

I'm pretty sure my personal "negative energy" has nothing to do with the performance of the Washington Redskins, whatsoever.

[hesscl34]

You guys are missing the point. A real fan never loses faith completely. There is always hope.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

That's why when I wake up in the morning, I piss optimism. Then blow my nose with Mark Brunell tissues!

[TheMalcolmConnection]

I think it's because maybe where there IS a change, people can feel the burn in their loins when they say, "I told you so."

Not that I'm saying that now, but I'm more on the "Brunell is a bigger problem than people think." side of the fence. God knows we have the talent, he's just got to get the ball there. That said, he's due for a few more good games and I hope to God he can find his rhythm that he did earlier in the year last year.