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Old 12-12-2006, 05:30 AM   #1
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Re: Betts better than Portis?

Hell no....Portis is the man!!!
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:46 PM   #2
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Re: Betts better than Portis?

Portis:
Year Team G GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 1st
2002 Denver Broncos 16 12 273 1508 5.5 59 15 11 79
2003 Denver Broncos 13 13 290 1591 5.5 65 14 13 76
2004 Washington Redskins 15 15 343 1315 3.8 64 5 5 65
2005 Washington Redskins 16 16 352 1516 4.3 47 11 6 74
2006 Washington Redskins 8 7 127 523 4.1 38 7 3 29
TOTAL 68 63 1385 6453 4.7 65 52 38 323

THat makes an AVERAGE of 4.08 yards per carry as a REDSKIN. notice he got 5.5 in denver. not a small point. almost 35% more effective in denver. while he scored 29 TDs in 2 seasons in denver, he's scored 23 in 3 in washington.
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Old 12-12-2006, 01:59 PM   #3
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Portis:
Year Team G GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 1st
2002 Denver Broncos 16 12 273 1508 5.5 59 15 11 79
2003 Denver Broncos 13 13 290 1591 5.5 65 14 13 76
2004 Washington Redskins 15 15 343 1315 3.8 64 5 5 65
2005 Washington Redskins 16 16 352 1516 4.3 47 11 6 74
2006 Washington Redskins 8 7 127 523 4.1 38 7 3 29
TOTAL 68 63 1385 6453 4.7 65 52 38 323

THat makes an AVERAGE of 4.08 yards per carry as a REDSKIN. notice he got 5.5 in denver. not a small point. almost 35% more effective in denver. while he scored 29 TDs in 2 seasons in denver, he's scored 23 in 3 in washington.
I like the stats, but what is your point? I think we all know he has not produced those all-world numbers he produced in Denver. But he's been no slouch.
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Old 12-12-2006, 04:28 PM   #4
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Portis:
Year Team G GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 1st
2002 Denver Broncos 16 12 273 1508 5.5 59 15 11 79
2003 Denver Broncos 13 13 290 1591 5.5 65 14 13 76
2004 Washington Redskins 15 15 343 1315 3.8 64 5 5 65
2005 Washington Redskins 16 16 352 1516 4.3 47 11 6 74
2006 Washington Redskins 8 7 127 523 4.1 38 7 3 29
TOTAL 68 63 1385 6453 4.7 65 52 38 323

THat makes an AVERAGE of 4.08 yards per carry as a REDSKIN. notice he got 5.5 in denver. not a small point. almost 35% more effective in denver. while he scored 29 TDs in 2 seasons in denver, he's scored 23 in 3 in washington.
His average is low because of the first season under gibbs where they pounded it between tackles 40 times a game and he average well under 4 yards per carry. No back would have average more unless they weighed over 250 with the way that offense was run. Since Then, he has had above average yards per carry, anything over 4.2 is very effective in this league.

Portis is the better back OF COURSE!!!!
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:56 PM   #5
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His average is low because of the first season under gibbs where they pounded it between tackles 40 times a game and he average well under 4 yards per carry. No back would have average more unless they weighed over 250 with the way that offense was run. Since Then, he has had above average yards per carry, anything over 4.2 is very effective in this league.

Portis is the better back OF COURSE!!!!

BEST REDSKIN FOR THE RUSHING ATTACK:

HANDS DOWN: MIKE "THE TANK" SELLERS!!!!!

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Old 12-15-2006, 12:49 AM   #6
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BEST REDSKIN FOR THE RUSHING ATTACK:

HANDS DOWN: MIKE "THE TANK" SELLERS!!!!!

That dude has the mean attitude we're missing.......
Hey I like sellers just as much as anybody but if u want a one dimensional back there he is. He runds straight and hard and there nothing else to him. When he does happen to get good yardage the defense was probably looking for a pass play where he is blocking or oging out for a pas sbecuase that is pretty ,much what we use the guy for.
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Old 12-12-2006, 07:43 PM   #7
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Portis:
Year Team G GS Att Yds Avg Lg TD 20+ 1st
2002 Denver Broncos 16 12 273 1508 5.5 59 15 11 79
2003 Denver Broncos 13 13 290 1591 5.5 65 14 13 76
2004 Washington Redskins 15 15 343 1315 3.8 64 5 5 65
2005 Washington Redskins 16 16 352 1516 4.3 47 11 6 74
2006 Washington Redskins 8 7 127 523 4.1 38 7 3 29
TOTAL 68 63 1385 6453 4.7 65 52 38 323

THat makes an AVERAGE of 4.08 yards per carry as a REDSKIN. notice he got 5.5 in denver. not a small point. almost 35% more effective in denver. while he scored 29 TDs in 2 seasons in denver, he's scored 23 in 3 in washington.
haha i love your name. it's soooo funny to see that. when i saw it i was like "brunell, who is that? ohh that guy". it seemed like he played a long ass time ago.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:16 PM   #8
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Re: Betts better than Portis?

Yards per carry isn't an isolated stat like 40 times. It depends on so many other factors (blocking, QB, passing game, defense even).
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Yards per carry isn't an isolated stat like 40 times. It depends on so many other factors (blocking, QB, passing game, defense even).
Very true.
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:41 PM   #10
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Re: Betts better than Portis?

Off the subject some . Why did they pull Betts when we got into scoring range and put in Ducket? He sucks.
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:52 PM   #11
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Re: Betts better than Portis?

Cause he's freaking huge? I don't have a problem with that on first down, but put Betts in to add some depth to the options.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:14 AM   #12
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Re: Betts better than Portis?

The Betts lovers need to keep some things in mind:
1. Betts can't block well
2. CP is a much better receiver and open field runner
3. Until this year, Betts has not been nearly as durable as CP
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Old 12-15-2006, 10:34 AM   #13
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Re: Betts better than Portis?

I have to disagree about Portis being a better receiver than Betts. I actually think CP is pretty average in that area and Betts has proven this year that he's a better receiver coming out of the backfield.
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Old 12-17-2006, 08:18 AM   #14
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I have to disagree about Portis being a better receiver than Betts. I actually think CP is pretty average in that area and Betts has proven this year that he's a better receiver coming out of the backfield.

Yeah, that's the one thing we've yet to see from Portis in Washington -- he hasn't been nearly the receiver that was advertised.

Then again, they don't seem to throw to him all that much.
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Old 12-15-2006, 11:18 AM   #15
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Re: Betts better than Portis?

CP showed some silly sticky fingers last year during The Run, though. It seemed like he had at least one highlight reel catch a game to bail out Brunell.

That said, I don't think receiving is a point I would give a huge edge to either back on. As you say, Betts has done great out of the backfield over the last few games.
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