Gibbs still likes how players are selected....ugh

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by jsarno

Agreed!
That was just a negative view. The same was said before the 05 season and we shocked the world with that run and playoff appearance. We were supposed to have 3-5 wins (depending on whose predictions you read) and we had 10.
Next year we will be fine, then we can poop on Czabe's porch.

Last season was nice. But we got to the div. playoffs. Let's not go overboard. I wouldn't call beating Phil. w/out McNabb, STL. playing it's 3rd string QB and defeating Ariz shocking the world. 05 Skins were not the 01 Pats. Let's keep it real.

[irish]

Originally Posted by JDALY27

I'm a Gibbs guy but the worst move Snyder made was years back. He fired Marty after 1 year. He started 0-5 and finished 8-8. With TONY BANKS!!!!! Fired him for Spurrier, horrible move.

You have to remember that the coach coveted most by Snyder was OBC and had OBC become available a year sooner than there would have been no Marty or had OBC waited than Marty would have stayed another year of so. Another stupid move among many for this organization.

I doubt Marty would have stayed much longer though as he recognized how screwed up the Redskins FO was (and still is) and was asking for control which Snyder was never going to give him.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by irish

You have to remember that the coach coveted most by Snyder was OBC and had OBC become available a year sooner than there would have been no Marty or had OBC waited than Marty would have stayed another year of so. Another stupid move among many for this organization.

I doubt Marty would have stayed much longer though as he recognized how screwed up the Redskins FO was (and still is) and was asking for control which Snyder was never going to give him.

Who is OBC?

[skinsfan69]

I got it. Old Ball Coach.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Last season was nice. But we got to the div. playoffs. Let's not go overboard. I wouldn't call beating Phil. w/out McNabb, STL. playing it's 3rd string QB and defeating Ariz shocking the world. 05 Skins were not the 01 Pats. Let's keep it real.

6 straight wins is shocking the world when EVERYONE counted us out twice. Preseason, then mid season.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

Then he made another horrible move by not moving Marvin Lewis to head coach.........

That was the true dumb move. Marty is a career postseason choker. I hope San Diego isn't expecting anything.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by jsarno

That was the true dumb move. Marty is a career postseason choker. I hope San Diego isn't expecting anything.

Yea, you're right it was Marty's fault that Earnest Byner fumbled on the 1 yard line. Its a fine line b/n winning and losing. Sometimes the chips just don't fall where you would like them too.

Snyder's worst mistake was letting Marty go. Last time i checked Marty was doing fairly well.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by jsarno

That was the true dumb move. Marty is a career postseason choker. I hope San Diego isn't expecting anything.

Even Martyball won't derail the San Diego express from riding all the way to the Super Bowl this year. The Chargers are loaded on both sides of the ball. I love their D-line, and when you add the closest thing to the original LT in Merriman, they are a QB's nightmare.

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Yea, you're right it was Marty's fault that Earnest Byner fumbled on the 1 yard line. Its a fine line b/n winning and losing. Sometimes the chips just don't fall where you would like them too.

Snyder's worst mistake was letting Marty go. Last time i checked Marty was doing fairly well.

.....and Nick Kaeding missed a thirty-something yard field goal.....

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Yea, you're right it was Marty's fault that Earnest Byner fumbled on the 1 yard line. Its a fine line b/n winning and losing. Sometimes the chips just don't fall where you would like them too.

Snyder's worst mistake was letting Marty go. Last time i checked Marty was doing fairly well. Letting Marvin Lewis go is a close 2nd.

What was he supposed to do to keep Lewis? As for Marty, yeah it sucks it didn't work out. But I look at it as overall we got the better end of the San Diego-Redskins coaching swap (granted it's a two decade difference)

I'll bet San Diego fans in the 1980s were bitching and moaning that the Chargers let go of their hotshot young offensive coordinator

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by redsk1

Yea, you're right it was Marty's fault that Earnest Byner fumbled on the 1 yard line. Its a fine line b/n winning and losing. Sometimes the chips just don't fall where you would like them too.

Snyder's worst mistake was letting Marty go. Last time i checked Marty was doing fairly well.

Let me paint a picture for you.
1995, KC 13-3, great team, lost first round. 12th offense, 1st defense.
1997, KC 13-3, great team, lost first round. 6th offense, 1st defense.
2004, SD 12-4, great team, lost first round. 3rd offense, 11th defense.

ps- they are 1st in offense, and 12th in defense this year.

By the way, those were the last 3 years his team made a playoff appearance. He's 5-12 in career playoff games.
Marty is a choker.

[The Zimmermans]

Originally Posted by TAFKAS

What was he supposed to do to keep Lewis? As for Marty, yeah it sucks it didn't work out. But I look at it as overall we got the better end of the San Diego-Redskins coaching swap (granted it's a two decade difference)

I'll bet San Diego fans in the 1980s were bitching and moaning that the Chargers let go of their hotshot young offensive coordinator

If snyder wanted him to be the head coach, he woulda made sure he got him. Marvin was looking for a head coaching position, snyder wanted spurrier cause he was blinded by his love of the old ball coach, but the real coaching talent was right under his nose....he shoulda promoted ML to head coach.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

Even Martyball won't derail the San Diego express from riding all the way to the Super Bowl this year. The Chargers are loaded on both sides of the ball. I love their D-line, and when you add the closest thing to the original LT in Merriman, they are a QB's nightmare.

Mark my words, they will not win the super bowl.
See my above comment, 12th in defense. Merriman can't do it all alone. They are good on D, but not great.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

If snyder wanted him to be the head coach, he woulda made sure he got him. Marvin was looking for a head coaching position, snyder wanted spurrier cause he was blinded by his love of the old ball coach, but the real coaching talent was right under his nose....he shoulda promoted ML to head coach.

Uh oh, I am agreeing with Zimmerman.

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by The Zimmermans

If snyder wanted him to be the head coach, he woulda made sure he got him. Marvin was looking for a head coaching position, snyder wanted spurrier cause he was blinded by his love of the old ball coach, but the real coaching talent was right under his nose....he shoulda promoted ML to head coach.

The whole NFL was in love with OBC, that's why he got such good money.