Are We Being Too Hard on Brandon Lloyd?

[EternalEnigma21]

well its done... i just traded him off of my madden franchise for devin hester...

[MTK]

Until he proves us wrong, which he hasn't in 17 regular season games now as a Redskin, he's garbage. Those waiting for his magical breakout better be prepared to wait a long time.

[wushawn]

Not at all. Hes being paid starter money and not even producing as a number 3. I understand we have been inconsistant at the QB postion, but when given the opprotunity..ie sunday, he shows no effort. I mean, its not his fault we paid him so much money, but at the same time when you sign that contract you have to take everything that comes with it, including the fans being hard on him, am i wrong?

[DGreene28]

I just watched the play in question on tape about 10 times frame by frame... Brandon gave 100% effort to get the ball. He also had both of his hands on the ball and almost made a really nice catch. Unfortunately the ball went through his hands and basically rested on the DB's facemask and allowed him to make the INT. After the INT Lloyd did not go all out however, could have been becausee the phins safety would have blocked him

[MTK]

Originally Posted by DGreene28

I just watched the play in question on tape about 10 times frame by frame... Brandon gave 100% effort to get the ball. He also had both of his hands on the ball and almost made a really nice catch. Unfortunately the ball went through his hands and basically rested on the DB's facemask and allowed him to make the INT. After the INT Lloyd did not go all out however, could have been becausee the phins safety would have blocked him

Excuses, excuses.

The bottom line is he didn't make the catch. He had the position, he should have made that catch.

So he didn't go after the defender because he was scared of being blocked? Wonderful!

It really amazes me the excuses for this bum. It's always someone else's fault for his shitty play. When will the excuses run out for the Lloyd apologists?? When we're halfway through the season and he's got 10 catches? At the end of the season when he's got 20? When??

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Excuses, excuses.

The bottom line is he didn't make the catch. He had the position, he should have made that catch.

So he didn't go after the defender because he was scared of being blocked? Wonderful!

It really amazes me the excuses for this bum. It's always someone else's fault for his shitty play. When will the excuses run out for the Lloyd apologists?? When we're halfway through the season and he's got 10 catches? At the end of the season when he's got 20? When??

Well I was an advocate bringing him to D.C., now I will join you and concur that Brandon Lloyd has run out of excuses. He's suppose to be a possession WR and he hasn't possessed a damn thing.

[holcknowsbest]

Originally Posted by DGreene28

I just watched the play in question on tape about 10 times frame by frame... Brandon gave 100% effort to get the ball. He also had both of his hands on the ball and almost made a really nice catch. Unfortunately the ball went through his hands and basically rested on the DB's facemask and allowed him to make the INT. After the INT Lloyd did not go all out however, could have been becausee the phins safety would have blocked him

it wasnt the effort when the ball was in the air that is in question. i was at the game on sunday to and i dont care what replay you saw, he didnt give 100%. He quit running his route only to speed back up once he realized campbell was throwing the ball in his direction. JC threw it high so that lloyd would have a chance but since he stopped his route he was too busy trying to catch up to where JC threw it. Since he was trying to make up for his mistake he didnt have enough time to get position or a good read on the flight of the ball. so he couldnt time his jump because he was too busy rushing to get to the spot. bottom line is, i am a very patient man because of these redskins but he needs to look in the mirror and actually become the player that his athletic talents tell us he is.

[DGreene28]

[quote=holcknowsbest;351194]it wasnt the effort when the ball was in the air that is in question. i was at the game on sunday to and i dont care what replay you saw, he didnt give 100%. He quit running his route only to speed back up once he realized campbell was throwing the ball in his direction. JC threw it high so that lloyd would have a chance but since he stopped his route he was too busy trying to catch up to where JC threw it. Since he was trying to make up for his mistake he didnt have enough time to get position or a good read on the flight of the ball. so he couldnt time his jump because he was too busy rushing to get to the spot. bottom line is, i am a very patient man because of these redskins but he needs to look in the mirror and actually become the player that his athletic talents tell us he is.[/quote/]

You're crazy thinking you can see better from the stands then on TV. Why do you think the refs have instant replay. You think you know... but you have no idea.

You go to watch the game in person to get the flava and the comradery. You watch in HD to see the best angles on every play.

[holcknowsbest]

[quote/]You're crazy thinking you can see better from the stands then on TV. Why do you think the refs have instant replay. You think you know... but you have no idea.

You go to watch the game in person to get the flava and the comradery. You watch in HD to see the best angles on every play.[/quote]

well why dont we go watch it in super slow mo 10 times....i will bet my life i saw what i saw and that you are wrong. 85 quit his route and then had to speed back up and could not get there in time to time his jump. think what you want boss but i know i am right, and to a man 85 would tell you himself. go watch it in super slow mo on HD again. the only thing is you arent watching the entire route, you are watching the last 10 yards at most in HD super slow mo. go tackle your wife buddy.

[DGreene28]

Originally Posted by holcknowsbest

[quote/]You're crazy thinking you can see better from the stands then on TV. Why do you think the refs have instant replay. You think you know... but you have no idea.

You go to watch the game in person to get the flava and the comradery. You watch in HD to see the best angles on every play.

well why dont we go watch it in super slow mo 10 times....i will bet my life i saw what i saw and that you are wrong. 85 quit his route and then had to speed back up and could not get there in time to time his jump. think what you want boss but i know i am right, and to a man 85 would tell you himself. go watch it in super slow mo on HD again. the only thing is you arent watching the entire route, you are watching the last 10 yards at most in HD super slow mo. go tackle your wife buddy.[/quote]

Don't make me come down there and teach you some manners!
I did see the entire route. I have what we call in the business a "Melt"
which is every single angle from the stadium. They will show maybe 2 or 3 on any given replay on network tv... A melt will have between 15 and 20 different angles including ISO's. Apparently you need to value your life more or drink and type less. I'm not going to argue with you anymore because you are clearly a fool. Ohh, and mention my wife again in that way and we will have a serious problem.

[DGreene28]

It went right through his hands... If he made this catch we'd all be singing his praises.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by DGreene28

It went right through his hands... If he made this catch we'd all be singing his praises.

I watched it earlier this afternoon again.. He slowed/stopped his route and then accelerated when the ball was thrown. If he ran the route to completion he would have been in position and had leverage to make a proper play on the ball.. Still no excuse for jogging after the DB once the ball was picked off... I've been a defender, but now get the F out of DC Lloyd.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by DGreene28

It went right through his hands... If he made this catch we'd all be singing his praises.

Maybe its his face mask but it looks like his eye's are closed to me!!

[The Zimmermans]

ALL I KNOW is that he missed an easy block on the CB that would have released CP into the backfield....and possibly to the endzone. Half-hearted attempt

[FRPLG]

And the int is sort of irrelevant. The CB made a good play and BL just mistimed it. BUT...the point of that pass is to put the ball into one on one coverage and let BL make a play. His JOB in this case is to MAKE A PLAY. He didn't. JC didn't overthrow him, whoever said that needs to check reality. On a 50+ yard pass to miss by 1 foot isn't over throwing. It is life. BL was expected to make a play there and didn't. Not his fault the the ball was intercepted more than he simply failed, again, to do what he was supposed to do. It is a common theme.