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Old 12-27-2007, 04:25 PM   #1
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What the heck is wrong with a fan picking his team just becasue he believes they will win. Why does someone always have to have a reason for picking their team to win? I could never pick another team to beat the skins NO MATTER WHAT. I always believe that if we put a team on the field we have a chance to win, period. Yes there are games like last week against the Vikes I said if we stop the run their QB cannot beat us and we have a big win. There are some games that I think will be very tough for us to win and we are out matched in ever part of the game but I still would not pick the other team to beat us. I think that we see people on this site who try and play Mr Know It All and pick against their team followed by a long list of reasons. Thats what I don't get. I don't care what the reasons are for us to loose as a fan I still always believe we can win.
That's not making a pick. That's rooting. Making a pick is saying what you THINK will happen. Rooting is what you WANT to happen. If you think we're outmatched in every phase of the game, then you think we're not likely to win the game. You just won't say so publicly because for some strange reason you tie fanhood to positive thinking. That makes no sense.

If you can't give an honest assessment of the team, and you're just going to express hope all the time, why should your opinions be considered relevant? You're just blowing hot air on the boards.
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Old 12-28-2007, 12:22 AM   #2
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I'm going to go ahead and call this thread retarded.

What so many people fail to realize - and it's the reason we've had this stupid divide on the site between "Kool Aid drinkers" and "Haterade drinkers" - is that there is a huge distinction between what you THINK will happen and what you WANT (or hope) to happen.

There's not a single one of us who stopped watching the games, stopped reading everything we could about the team, stopped discussing the team, or started cheering for another team. We all remained devoted fans. That's the one thing we all have in common here.

Our only differences throughout the year were in our opinions of how good the team was. Being a fan does not mean you think they're always going to win. Being a fan means you love them, whether they win or lose.

Retarded thread. Please start getting what it means to be a fan.
I think you are generalizing hope with being a homer.

It doesn't take a whole lot of intelligence to sit back after the Bills loss and be like "if we beat a bad Bears team, a reeling Giants team, and a Vikings team that lacks balance, we will be 8-7 and in great playoff position." However, there were only a handful of people on this fourm who had the aptitude/foresight to think ahead to that point. Those who did (I am one of the ones who did) really aren't all that surprised at the outcome. Fortunate this team has been in recent weeks, but this was not a miracle.

A lot of fourm members deemed the Redskins out of it for certain. I'm not talking about making an educated guess that these guys werent a playoff team, I mean they were very adament and vicious in making sure each and every one of the playoff hopefuls were admonished.

The bottom line of this thread is those people were wrong, ignorant, and stupid in their line of thinking as football fans, and more specifically Redskin fans. This isn't about the people who made a prediction that we would miss the playoffs. This is about those who tried to take solitude in us missing the playoffs and just generally being asses.

They know who they are, but this thread is not stupid.
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Old 12-28-2007, 09:24 AM   #3
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I think you are generalizing hope with being a homer.
No I'm not, just the opposite in fact. I'm saying we all had hope that the team would win. We just didn't all agree that the team would win.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:34 AM   #4
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Re: For everyone that didn't give up!

If people want to come out and say "Hey, I told you they'd make the playoffs," then I'm fine with that. Because that's a debate over what we THOUGHT would happen. And if you predicted playoffs for us, and we make it, then go nuts rubbing people's nose in it.

But for people to question each other's fanhood because people thought the Redskins wouldn't make it? That makes no sense. Of course we all wanted them to make it, that was never a debate.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:37 AM   #5
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If people want to come out and say "Hey, I told you they'd make the playoffs," then I'm fine with that. Because that's a debate over what we THOUGHT would happen. And if you predicted playoffs for us, and we make it, then go nuts rubbing people's nose in it.

But for people to question each other's fanhood because people thought the Redskins wouldn't make it? That makes no sense. Of course we all wanted them to make it, that was never a debate.
Thankfully I don't think this fits the majority of people here, just the extremists on either side. I think most people here are rational and level headed.
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:42 AM   #6
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Thankfully I don't think this fits the majority of people here, just the extremists on either side. I think most people here are rational and level headed.
I thought there was some unwritten bylaw here that I missed that demanded that you immediately question an individuals loyalty, "fanhood" and testicle size when they dare to raise any kind of problem or "negative" thought.

Didn't someone threaten to shoot somebody in a game thread for not being a fan? I mean seriously...
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:48 AM   #7
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Didn't someone threaten to shoot somebody in a game thread for not being a fan? I mean seriously...
Tell me you're joking!
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Old 12-27-2007, 10:55 AM   #8
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Tell me you're joking!
I wish.

I think jsarno was on some rant during a game a month or so ago and threatened to shoot me, or somebody else, it wasn't entirely clear.

I'm sure (?) it was all in jest, but even still. Hopefully it was one or eight too many beers.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:01 AM   #9
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I thought there was some unwritten bylaw here that I missed that demanded that you immediately question an individuals loyalty, "fanhood" and testicle size when they dare to raise any kind of problem or "negative" thought.

Didn't someone threaten to shoot somebody in a game thread for not being a fan? I mean seriously...
I believe we're all Redskins fans. I just believe some people tend to be so overly critical of every single aspect that I wonder if they even enjoy watching the Redskins play football? At least, that is the impression I get sometimes.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:05 AM   #10
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I believe we're all Redskins fans. I just believe some people tend to be so overly critical of every single aspect that I wonder if they even enjoy watching the Redskins play football? At least, that is the impression I get sometimes.
I would agree. But wouldn't you also agree that some people are so blindly optimistic that they can't see reality on occasion? Is it wrong to point out and discuss the problems?
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:32 AM   #11
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If people want to come out and say "Hey, I told you they'd make the playoffs," then I'm fine with that. Because that's a debate over what we THOUGHT would happen. And if you predicted playoffs for us, and we make it, then go nuts rubbing people's nose in it.

But for people to question each other's fanhood because people thought the Redskins wouldn't make it? That makes no sense. Of course we all wanted them to make it, that was never a debate.
I think, perhaps incorrectly, that jsarno didn't mean to call anyone out in a negative way. I think he meant to give props to people who thought we would make the playoffs.

I certainly think that everyone on this site is a Redskins fan, save for guys like sandtrapjack and Giantone. But, I wouldn't mind seeing certain people voluntarily admit that they were wrong when they said things, "lol...if you think the Redskins will make the playoffs you need to remove your burgundy and gold glasses because you are delusional....lol."
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:41 AM   #12
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I think, perhaps incorrectly, that jsarno didn't mean to call anyone out in a negative way. I think he meant to give props to people who thought we would make the playoffs.

I certainly think that everyone on this site is a Redskins fan, save for guys like sandtrapjack and Giantone. But, I wouldn't mind seeing certain people voluntarily admit that they were wrong when they said things, "lol...if you think the Redskins will make the playoffs you need to remove your burgundy and gold glasses because you are delusional....lol."

I think you're exactly right SGG! I think something needs to be said about those who sit back and laugh about the idea of the redskins making the playoffs and calling people delusional for even thinking such.
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Old 12-27-2007, 12:38 PM   #13
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Re: For everyone that didn't give up!

I have to admit that i was nearly off the "playoff" bandwagon. The pessimistic side of me still wants to point out that we are taking advantage of a terrible NFC.

I love the Redskins, and i watch every play, sometimes twice, but i didnt see this ship turning around 3 weeks ago.

So i suppose this thread isnt for me.

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Old 12-30-2007, 04:16 PM   #14
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I think, perhaps incorrectly, that jsarno didn't mean to call anyone out in a negative way. I think he meant to give props to people who thought we would make the playoffs.

I certainly think that everyone on this site is a Redskins fan, save for guys like sandtrapjack and Giantone. But, I wouldn't mind seeing certain people voluntarily admit that they were wrong when they said things, "lol...if you think the Redskins will make the playoffs you need to remove your burgundy and gold glasses because you are delusional....lol."
Sorry to be quoting such old posts but I haven't had the time to be around daily like I used to.

You are absolutely correct SGG. Good post.
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Old 12-27-2007, 11:39 AM   #15
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I recall being called a homer for picking the Skins over the Giants and hearing stuff like it was impossible that the Skins would beat the Giants and Vikings. It would be nice to hear from some of those people now.

Stuff like that is the reason we have threads like this. Some people make some pretty bold statements, and when proven wrong you never hear from them.
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