ESPN's Mortenson: Williams No Longer a Candidate

[Skinny Tee]

What's terrible is how Snyder goes about interacting with people in the NFL ranks. The guy is despicable when it comes to managing team personel. Remember that time he made Norv wait outside his office for hours after a big loss and Norv just ended up going home because it took so long?

That kind of shit catches up with you. These slimeball tactics, like citing hearsay that Gregg Williams said something bad about Gibbs knowing that can't possibly be verified, are a complete abomination!

Snyder can't be a man when it comes to the team personel, i.e. Gibbs calling coaches and assistants. His sole merit is being able to throw wads of cash at people to get them to like him. Fuck him! Having balls and having to buy them are completely different.

[shzaskinsfn]

The reality is we are all left in the dark. I, for one, am tired of checking to see what the latest scoop is. I don't like the way this is being handled and I don't think the players or coaches are being treated fairly either. I want a winning franchise but I want one I can be proud of. Not one that lacks class. I will forever be a Redskins fan and I have always supported Snyder but he is truly testing my patience this time, I think we have been through too much this past season and we deserve a smoother process than what we are getting.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by shzaskinsfn

The reality is we are all left in the dark. I, for one, am tired of checking to see what the latest scoop is. I don't like the way this is being handled and I don't think the players or coaches are being treated fairly either. I want a winning franchise but I want one I can be proud of. Not one that lacks class. I will forever be a Redskins fan and I have always supported Snyder but he is truly testing my patience this time, I think we have been through too much this past season and we deserve a smoother process than what we are getting.

You said a mouthful. Hit the nail right on the head. Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree completely. Welcome to the board.

[Dirtbag59]

Fassal and Zorn are fine and all but who the hell is going to be our D-Coordinator?

[B.F. SKINner]

I posted this in extremeskins, but I just need to vent and get this off my chest:

I grew up like many of you, watching the Redskins teams of the 80's. Those teams had character, they were like a family. Jack Kent Cooke was a great owner. He hired Bobby Beathard to make football decisions and he provided the financial support. Joe Gibbs was the coach with much of the same staff for a dozen or so years.

Joe Gibbs brought this type of climate back to the Skins. Especially during this past season, players truly bought in. Something special happened to this team after going through the horrible tragedy of losing Sean. Joe stabilized what had been a disaster during the many coaching and personnel changes that marked the Snyder years. We could all see that this organization was headed in the right direction.

I am sickened by what has occurred since Gibbs announced his retirement. Daniel Snyder is certainly no Jack Kent Cooke. He doesn't know football, he doesn't know people, and he doesn't know his limitations. I was hoping that he had learned from Gibbs over the past four years, as he said he had during Joe's retirement press conference. Apparently, he has learned nothing about how to build and maintain a winning program. Take a quick look at the successful teams in the league and you see a common thread, stability of players and stablility of coaching and philosophy. He also has learned nothing about being decent to people.

If the reports are accurate, that Snyder is not hiring Gregg Williams because of the 10 men on the field for the first play after Sean's death, then I can have no more hope for my team. I cannot believe that Gregg Williams would put Joe Gibbs down. Snyder appears to be creating excuses, and poor ones at that, so he doesn't have to hire Gregg.

Dan Snyder is quickly destroying all that Joe Gibbs had built up in four years. He is destroying the feeling that we fans had as we watched this team fight its way into the playoffs. He is destroying the sense of being a real "team" that these players have experienced under Joe Gibbs.

Thank you, Joe, for being here for the last four years. I got to enjoy being a fan of a team with coaches and players that I was proud of. Thank you for giving us all a feeling that we had long forgotten in years past.

I am afraid that we are going back to the dark days of the pre-Gibbs Snyder era with no end in sight.

[redsk1]

I feel bad for GW. I don't trust VC and DS one bit. I don't trust what they say and i don't trust them to make good decisions for our once proud franchise.

I'm really down and embarrassed by the Redskins right now. I'll be a lifelong fan that doesn't mean I have to like our FO right now.

Even though i support GW as our new coach, ownership could have hired someone else if they thought it was a better hire and I couldn't be too upset about it. However, the way they've handled is not professional.

[redsk1]

Forgot to mention, if anything GW is honest. He's very self assured and tells it like it is. I'll take GW's side on this.

[redwagonskins]

The irony is that this couldn't happen in a better place: Washington DC. The home of back-room deal-making and smear campaigns.

[Dan22]

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

But what do we do when it's shattered?

[dmek25]

it seems like an awful lot of people are getting all worked up over nothing. there might be a reason why Williams hasn't been named head coach yet...

[Chief X_Phackter]

Originally Posted by dmek25

it seems like an awful lot of people are getting all worked up over nothing. there might be a reason why Williams hasn't been named head coach yet...

Thank you, and all this speculation is really unnecessary. How about let the process unfold and form your opinions once the facts are straight. Right now the only thing we know is Zorn is the new Offensive Coordinator and a head coach hasn't been hired yet. That's it. All this talk about tearing down what Gibbs built, starting from scratch because GW might not be the head coach is nonsense.

[SBXVII]

(Rock Your Face) Nice post. I grew up in the 80's watching Gibbs1 and always wondering why the games had to be so close. Yes there were occassional blow outs. If I'm not mistaken your looking at one of our SB years. Look at all the other years and see how close they were. Gibbs1 was a gentleman. The unwritten rule of the coaching rule was not to embarrass the other coach. When Gibbs got ahead he simply would run the ball to run out the clock. Only in the SB did he seem to blow out the other teams. Heck he was known for his half time adjustments. That tells you right there how piss pour we would play the first half of most games and pull out a win.

Also keep in mind during Gibbs1 there was no such thing as a CAP. I know he managed it well this time around but there is more to it I belive. If Gibbs1 wanted a player bad enough Mr. Cook would out spend everyone for the player. We always seemed to have the biggest OL (slow however) for blocking. You can't simply purchase all the players you need or want. The best teams are building through the draft. Saving money. I would love to see us go this route but it will take years with the CAP hits we will take.

I also enjoyed the post about FAMILY. Your right they were a family back in Gibbs1. Teams could spend all the money they wanted to keep the players on the team. Also back then there seemed to be more of what was called team spirit. When the player came out of college he would usually stick with one team. The rivalries were strong. Since then (maybe the cap is partially to blame) players have jumped ship sometimes to the rival teams which to me seems to have weakened the family feeling. Do we really need the cap anymore? some say yes some say no. It was put in place to help out the less lucrative teams ie; New Orleans, LA Rams(back then), New England(back then) and several other teams. Usually it was because the owner was not putting the money back into the team but his pocket. Some teams did have attendence problems. I say if there is a large market but little support then allow the owner to move his team. Screw the city/fans. Football is all about marketing. Owners need the money to pay the high priced players. Back then there was large differences between a lot of teams now the league is much closer. Owners have figured out how to squeeze the money out of the fans through all the team merchandise and through the media having them pay a lot to show the game. Not to mention food. lol.

Gibbs is the best HC in my opinion and no one else will compare. I have enjoyed what he brought us both times. I dispise the WC offense but this goes back to the cold war and Gibbs offense vs the WC. lol. I think it was all Reagans fault for bringing down the wall. lol just kidding. I guess if it means to have a team blow out other teams like the patriots do and the Colts have been doing then I'll overlook the WC. I just hope DS has not tarnished the Skins like Al Davis has with the Raiders.

[SBXVII]

Yea people are getting worked up over nothing. The new HC and his coordinators may even keep all the staff Gibbs brought. However bringing in a coordinator who has been in the WC offense most of his coaching career simply smells of getting rid of Gibbs style of offense and bringing in a WC style does speak volumes of getting rid of half of what Gibbs has done. Do you think we will keep all the Asst. coach's who are associated with Gibbs style and not WC?

We might keep GW. Maybe there was some major behind the scene's shinanagins. If so why all the talk about Fassell unless he was to be a coordinator to get his career back on track. Wouldn't it have been a lot simpler to just tell the public GW is the HC and then look for the coordinator's? All this annimosity for the same end result is crazy. No there is more to it. DS is looking for whole sale changes across the board. He sees how the succesful teams are running the WC offense and the successful defenses are running the Ryan system. Except the Raiders. lol. I really don't mind if we are going the way of the Patriots. Get younger coaches and start building through the draft. Heck it will probubly save DS money. Maybe lower the cost of the tickets a little. No maybe not. DS is money hungry.lol.

[theJBexperience]

If Snyder really did create a smear campaign against Williams, why would he do such a thing? To try to get the players and fan base around his new HC hire? It just doesn't make sense.

[Redskins_P]

I guess we can officially say goodbye to Gregg Williams. He's no longer part of the organization. This really sucks.

Gregg Williams Is Gone

Williams, assistant head coach - defense, had a meeting with owner Dan Snyder this morning acccording to his agent Marv Demoff, and is no longer a part of the organization. The sides mutual aggreed that he was no longer a candidate, Demoff said, and will move on.

The meeting was pleasant and productive, Demoff said, and Williams intended to withdraw from their coaching search Tuesday. At the urging of Joe Gibs he stayed in the process. He reached out to Gibsb again Thursday and Friday and was asked to stay in, Demoff said. So he did.

In today's meeting Williams asked Snyder abouyt media reports that he had disrecpetd Joe Gibbs. "Both Sndyer and Ceerato agreed that that had never occured and those reports were totally false," Demoff said. "They wished each othger well int he future and the sides parted."

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