(updated title): Make Your Day One Redskins Draft Selections (Rounds 1-2)

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by That Guy

nelson only had one good year, and he's slow (4.57 average, 4.52 peak), but he was consistent across opponents.

probably not an nfl star, but a good chance at being reliable. he won't get away with a lot of those plays on his highlights in the nfl (due to the fact that almost EVERYONE is going to be faster than him), but he's got good hands and no fear and seems like a good value in the late 3rd.

Anquan Boldin ran a pedestrian 4.71 at his combine. Not to say I could be in the league, but when I was in HS I ran a 4.67.

Nelson had more production at receiver in college, is faster that Boldin, and will likely enjoy the same level of success, if not more, than AB had in Arizona after a few years. Nelson needs to been in burgundy and gold come the start of the season.

[QBall]

ESPN is reporting that 8 Defensive Lineman coming out are potential 1st round picks. Skins chances are very good at # 21 to grab one:

The 2008 NFL draft should feature at least eight defensive linemen selected in the first round. The most likely candidates include DEs Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Phillip Merling, Derrick Harvey and Calais Campbell, and DTs Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis and Kentwan Balmer.

[davelavarra]

Calais Campbell, at #21, would be a no-brainer. I'll wait next round for a wide receiver, possibly a big one, a possession one.

[QBall]

Originally Posted by davelavarra

Calais Campbell, at #21, would be a no-brainer. I'll wait next round for a wide receiver, possibly a big one, a possession one.

Will be interesting to see if we draft offense high this year. With Zorn a very offensive minded coach we'll see, depends on Free agency I guess.

[Campbell17]

Round 1: If we havent landed Ocho Cinco yet, I think Mario Manningham would be a nice fit. If we have, Vernon Gholston.
Round 2: Under consideration.

[QBall]

Player Pos. School Grade
1. Darren McFadden* RB Arkansas 99
2. Chris Long DE Virginia 98
3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 98
4. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll. 98
5. Jake Long OT Michigan 98
6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 97
7. Ryan Clady* OT Boise St. 96
8. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy 96
9. Vernon Gholston* DE Ohio State 96
10. Malcolm Kelly* WR Oklahoma 96
11. Mike Jenkins CB S. Florida 95
12. DeSean Jackson* WR California 95
13. Rashard Mendenhall* RB Illinois 95
14. Aqib Talib* CB Kansas 94
15. Mario Manningham* WR Michigan 94
16. Derrick Harvey* DE Florida 94
17. Kentwan Balmer DT N. Carolina 94
18. Jonathan Stewart* RB Oregon 94
19. Limas Sweed WR Texas 93
20. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 93
21. Phillip Merling* DE Clemson 93
22. Keith Rivers OLB USC 93
23. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt 92
24. Dan Connor OLB Penn State 92
25. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 91
26. Calais Campbell* DE Miami 91
27. Felix Jones* RB Arkansas 91
28. Kenny Phillips* S Miami 91
29. Fred Davis TE USC 91
30. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. St. 91
31. Sam Baker OT USC 90
32. Devin Thomas* W

This is according to ESPN.

[Longtimefan]

Will have a better feel after Feb. 20-26

Round 1- Kentwan Balmer DT/ (UNC)
Round 2- Limas Sweed WR/ (Texas Longhorns)

[Dirtbag59]

Funny typo by ESPN Insider. They have Kenny Phillips listed at 302 poulds and running a 4.45 40. Man thats awesome a 302 pounder running in the 4.4's.

Top 30 Senior Defensive Back Prospects in 2008 NFL Draft
Player School Position Height Weight Speed
1. Mike Jenkins South Florida CB 6-0 200 4.49
2. Leodis McKelvin Troy CB 5-10 5/8 190 4.44
3. Aqib Talib Kansas CB 6-1 1/2 201 4.50
4. Brandon Flowers Virginia Tech CB 5-10 1/8 192 4.45
5. Kenny Phillips Miami S 6-1 3/4 302 4.45
6. Dominique Rogers-Cromartie Tennessee State CB 6-1 3/8 183 4.44
7. Reggie Smith Oklahoma CB 6-1 1/4 196 4.45
8. Tracy Porter Indiana CB 5-10 5/8 184 4.40
9. Patrick Lee Auburn CB 5-11 7/8 194 4.43
10. Dejuan Morgan N.C. State S 6-1 1/4 203 4.51
11. Antoine Cason Arizona CB 6-0 190 4.55
12. Chevis Jackson LSU CB 5-11 1/2 188 4.55
13. Charles Godfrey Iowa CB 5-11 3/4 207 5.30
14. Thomas DeCoud California S 6-1 1/2 196 4.56
15. Justin King Penn State CB 6-1 1/8 190 4.40
16. Jack Williams Kent State CB 5-8 5/8 181 4.29
17. Marcus Griffin Texas S 5-10 1/8 198 4.60
18. Terrell Thomas USC CB 6-0 3/8 197 4.47
19. Tyrell Johnson Arkansas State S 5-11 1/2 200 4.56
20. Trae Williams South Florida CB 5-9 1/4 193 4.45
21. D.J. Wolfe Oklahoma S 5-10 3/4 200 4.46
22. Tom Zbikowski Notre Dame S 5-11 1/8 209 4.55
23. Simeon Castille Alabama S 5-11 7/8 190 4.61
24. Tyvon Branch Connecticut CB 5-11 1/4 197 4.47
25. Jamie Silva Boston College S 5-11 205 4.60
26. Craig Steltz LSU S 6-1 210 4.61
27. DeJuan Tribble Boston College CB 5-8 1/2 190 4.50
28. Jonathan Hefney Tennessee S 5-8 1/4 192 4.45
29. Terrence Wheatley Colorado CB 5-9 3/8 187 4.41
30. Jamar Adams Michigan S 6-2 1/4 209 4.50

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by QBall

ESPN is reporting that 8 Defensive Lineman coming out are potential 1st round picks. Skins chances are very good at # 21 to grab one:

See, there always seems to be a rush on defensive linemen in the first round, and this year will be no different. I can see all 8 of those guys gone before we pick at #21.

Next to franchise quarterback, an All-Pro DE or DT is probably the next most coveted place to find a star.

[Dirtbag59]

Versatile Long leads impressive group of defensive ends

By Todd McShay
Scouts Inc.
(Archive)


Updated: February 18, 2008


The 2008 NFL draft should feature at least eight defensive linemen selected in the first round. The most likely candidates include DEs Chris Long, Vernon Gholston, Phillip Merling, Derrick Harvey and Calais Campbell, and DTs Glenn Dorsey, Sedrick Ellis and Kentwan Balmer.

Long, Dorsey and Ellis rank among the six elite prospects in this year's class. Long earned the highest grade of the 2008 senior prospects I studied on film last summer, and his game was even more refined this past fall. He is versatile enough to play end in a three- or four-man front, and some teams think his best fit in the NFL could be at linebacker. Dorsey and Ellis have somewhat similar styles; Dorsey spent most of his time working as a three-technique at LSU, while Ellis did most of his damage at nose tackle. Regardless, both display the first-step quickness, explosive power and closing burst to disrupt in the NFL.

The remaining five projected first-rounders have a wide variety of backgrounds and styles. Gholston is an undersized edge rusher who might fit best as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme. Balmer played tackle at UNC but might fit best as a 3-4 end in the NFL. Merling and Campbell are unusually big 4-3 ends coming out of the college ranks, and depending on the scheme, could play inside and/or outside at the next level. Finally, Harvey has the frame and speed to play a more traditional weakside end in a four-man front.

There are far more quality ends than tackles to choose from in this year's crop of defensive linemen, and the official combine list confirmed that feeling. Of the 52 defensive linemen invited to Indianapolis, 35 are listed as college defensive ends.

This deep group can be broken into three different parts. First, there are traditional ends that fit best in a 4-3 scheme. Some quality examples expected to be available between Rounds 2 and 5 include Lawrence Jackson, Darrell Robertson, Christopher Ellis and Jeremy Thompson. Second, there is a group of bigger ends who project better as inside players in a three-man front. Kendall Langford, Jason Jones and Johnny Dingle fit that mold and will be available after the first round.

The third group is best classified as rush-linebacker types. These are typically end/outside linebacker tweeners who lack the size to consistently stack at the line of scrimmage but are blessed with enough pass-rushing burst and athleticism to play a more versatile role, either as a full-time starter at outside linebacker in a 3-4 scheme or as a sub-package edge rusher. Some second-tier examples will include Quentin Groves, Clifford Avril, Titus Brown, Jameel McClain and Jeremy Geathers.
As for the tackles, there's a noticeable drop-off in talent after Dorsey, Ellis and Balmer. In fact, it wouldn't be surprising if Pat Sims is the only one to come off the board in Round 2. Sims came on strong as a junior (4.5 sacks and 15 QB hurries) and should test well enough to solidify a spot in the first couple of rounds.

Defensive tackles available on Day 2 should be viewed as potential situational contributors. There will be several undersized three-technique types capable of occasionally disrupting the opponent's backfield. The best of the rest include Trevor Laws, Letroy Guion, DeMario Pressley, Andre Fluellen and Carlton Powell. Then there are space-eaters like Marcus Harrison, Red Bryant, Frank Okam and Athyba Rubin, who will fit best in two-gap schemes at the next level.

Finally, there are a handful of small-school defensive linemen vying for spots in the late rounds. In my opinion, the three with the biggest upsides are Langford (Hampton), DE/OLB Curtis Johnson (Clark Atlanta) and DT Kurt Hout (Ferris State).

[TheSmurfs22]

Mark me down for Campbell as well.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by TheSmurfs22

Mark me down for Campbell as well.

I like Campbell to. As I stated earlier the guy has had a season where he's gotten 10.5 sacks and this past year he had a down year with 6.5 sacks (hell of a down year). In my opinion hes probably hungry to regain that 10 sack form. And on top of that hes big enough to move inside with Phillip Daniels on Third and long. Also with Greg Blache on his ass he'll be able to push harder then he did last year.

Of course Vinny Cerato says that we're looking for an interior prescence so right now I see us going after either Chad Johnson or Kentwan Balmer. Unless of course Malcom Kelly falls to us, especially considering that Vinny see's him as a top 15 pick.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Originally Posted by QBall

Player Pos. School Grade
1. Darren McFadden* RB Arkansas 99
2. Chris Long DE Virginia 98
3. Glenn Dorsey DT LSU 98
4. Matt Ryan QB Boston Coll. 98
5. Jake Long OT Michigan 98
6. Sedrick Ellis DT USC 97
7. Ryan Clady* OT Boise St. 96
8. Leodis McKelvin CB Troy 96
9. Vernon Gholston* DE Ohio State 96
10. Malcolm Kelly* WR Oklahoma 96
11. Mike Jenkins CB S. Florida 95
12. DeSean Jackson* WR California 95
13. Rashard Mendenhall* RB Illinois 95
14. Aqib Talib* CB Kansas 94
15. Mario Manningham* WR Michigan 94
16. Derrick Harvey* DE Florida 94
17. Kentwan Balmer DT N. Carolina 94
18. Jonathan Stewart* RB Oregon 94
19. Limas Sweed WR Texas 93
20. Brian Brohm QB Louisville 93
21. Phillip Merling* DE Clemson 93
22. Keith Rivers OLB USC 93
23. Chris Williams OT Vanderbilt 92
24. Dan Connor OLB Penn State 92
25. Jeff Otah OT Pittsburgh 91
26. Calais Campbell* DE Miami 91
27. Felix Jones* RB Arkansas 91
28. Kenny Phillips* S Miami 91
29. Fred Davis TE USC 91
30. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB Tenn. St. 91
31. Sam Baker OT USC 90
32. Devin Thomas* W

This is according to ESPN.

When did Devin Thomas make the top 32? Thats gonna suck if he doesnt fall down to where he is supposed to....to us in the 2nd round!

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by SkinsFanSince91

Anquan Boldin ran a pedestrian 4.71 at his combine. Not to say I could be in the league, but when I was in HS I ran a 4.67.

Nelson had more production at receiver in college, is faster that Boldin, and will likely enjoy the same level of success, if not more, than AB had in Arizona after a few years. Nelson needs to been in burgundy and gold come the start of the season.

if you want we can put money on it. the number of WRs that have 1500+ yards as rookies is almost non existent. I'll take that bet any day, and i'll bet AB's yards/game for his career remains better than nelson's too.

AB breaks tackles like no other WR, while nelson's highlights show him making speed cuts against college players that are generally much slower than standard nfl fare.

[Dirtbag59]

Alright updated Dirtbag359 Draft predictions

1st - Kentwaan Blamber/Malcom Kelly
2nd - Devin Thomas/ Pat Sims
3rd - Roy Schuening