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10-15-2008, 06:52 AM | #76 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
I think there is justification on the Cowboys side, a first round pick for a pro bowl WR is good value but this still looks like a look at me trade .
Possibly one things that wasn't broken on that team was the passing game . The Run game with Barber as the feature back was always going to be in trouble if teams keyed on him , the defense is thin so boulstering a strength can some times be a smart thing . Does it make them superbowl contenders .....not any more than they were a week ago . Someone still neads to get the ball to Williams or Owens . I think WR is a very over rated possition in the scheme of things . Look at the teams with the best WRs (Cincy, Indy and Arizona) and they have one SB between them . Balance is what it is all about . They had a great WR in Terry Glenn and that got them what exactly ? |
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10-15-2008, 07:01 AM | #77 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
roy is good, but not nearly in the league of moss, TO, or andre johnson (or plex, or those two guys in AZ), and going forward calvin johnson and edwards will be better...
he's a crazy #2 (but still not the best - see Q in AZ or harrison/wayne in indy), but if it's really a 1,3 and 6, it's too much for one year or multiple years with heaps of new money. plus, adding him to the TO-centric offense... well, maybe TO gets a bit jealous. |
10-15-2008, 08:50 AM | #78 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
Well I was concerned about TO's reaction as well. But from all reports, the GM mentioned the trade to Owens as is was being done and Owens was (quote) "ECSTATIC".
Then when the deal was finalized, reporters spoke with Roy Williams and he said the first call he got was from TO. So we will see I guess. But as far as the deal goes it was not really all that bad. Yeah 3 draft picks sounds like a lot. But believe it or not yesterday morning when the Cowboys were getting their breakfast, they had 10 total draft picks for the 2009 draft. After the trade was done at the end of the day, Dallas had nine draft picks for the 2009 draft. They only gave up one draft pick. Because of Pacman's suspension, the Cowboys received the Titans 5th round pick. That was s stipulation of the trade. Dallas already had two-3rd round picks (Cleveland) and two-6th round picks (Miami, Jason Fergeson trade). So Dallas sends their first, third and 6th rounder for Williams. Chances are the 3rd and 6th round picks from Cleveland and Miami are going to be higher anyway. And Dallas got a 7th rounder from Detroit. |
10-15-2008, 09:29 AM | #79 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
So seriously sandtrap, where have you been?
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10-15-2008, 09:34 AM | #80 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
They've lost 2 of their last 3. What else is there to say?
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10-15-2008, 09:56 AM | #82 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
Now i know I hate Detroit. I hope TO is happy. The Lions just through in the towel for this season.
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10-15-2008, 10:03 AM | #83 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
I think the move for Williams makes Dallas a better team, especially in the long run. We will have to see how they distribute the ball in that offense in the coming weeks.
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10-15-2008, 10:11 AM | #85 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
While listening to Chris Mortenson, he pretty much agree's the toll was HEAVY with the 1,3,6 +20m in guaranteed $$.
He did point out that the boys will be packing it in with TO in the next couple of years as he is not a kid (in reciever and dog years), and will have outlived his usefullness. This deal gives them an heir apparent. AND, in the interim, it should provide some serious entertainment with TO, as it looks like...sadly.....snif.....snif........Adam may not have much entertainment value left
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10-15-2008, 10:52 AM | #86 |
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
Well there is still only one football and it rarely works having 2 #1 WR. They are going to still be the same team, light up the weaker teams and struggle against the better teams. They have no leadership and no heart. R. Williams isn't going to help in either area.
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
They can load up on offense all they want, but that secondary is still a big problem. JJ is selling out to win now, but I just don't see how another WR puts them over the top.
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
Right. It wasn't like their offense was exactly stalling. If you can sustain long drives and keep their defense on the field, that's how you beat the Cowboys.
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Re: Breaking News Roy Williams Traded to Dallas
Dallas is in trouble on the field now too. Romo is out a month.
Brad Johnson should fumble less though! Their secondary is decimated, Williams is out a month, Newman is out, Felix Jones is out, Pacman should be considered done for good. Even their punter has a broken foot from being blocked in OT last week to lose the game to the Cardinals. They just traded a 1st-round , 3rd- and 6th- draft picks for a WR who is pretty much a 1st-round bust himself...and gave him $20 million a year guaranteed! Roy Williams is the highest-paid WR in football now, he makes $5 million more per year than Randy Moss, $7 million more than Burress...why? They're already comfortable at WR with Owens (although he's playing poorly now), Crayton, Austin...plus you can consider Witten a WR pretty much. They need help on defense now. You can also bet that Owens will be upset any time this new high-profile WR takes catches away from him. I guess since they have no D, they're going to try to outscore everyone. That works for BYU or Hawaii (with Colt Brennan), but not in the NFL. Bad move in my opinion, but then again, so was Wade Phillips and half of their roster it looks like. If I were a Dallas fan, I'd be sick of Jerry Jones too. They have not won a playoff game in 13 years despite solid regular seasons. It has to be tough being a fan of that team. Even when Dan Snyder first took over and we had Heath Shuler (bust) at QB and Steve Spurrier failing miserably as a coach, we didn't have the off-field problems and lack of morals in the locker room. Losing was bad, but we didn't feel like we lost our franchise. Snyder re-hired Gibbs, learned a LOT about football and the boundaries an owner needs to have and he's now one of the more successful owners in the league. Jerry Jones still shows up on the sidelines (a la Al Davis) to call plays and meddle with the team. No team can win with an owner like that.
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