obama is taking my $

[KLHJ2]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, easy there hero. First of all not all fetuses are innocent. In the event that a woman is rapped or drugged and she gets pregnant you are going to ensure that she bears a child of the person that did that to her? I believe that it is cruel and unusal punishment. If she does not want to bear that child, then she is entitled. After all isn't it the belief of most of you that the son will bear the sins of the father? Why shouldn't it be her choice? If killing a fetus is wrong, then you shouldn't eat eggs. No one Rep or Dem believes in killing a child. Hell, most of us do not believe in killing at all. Correct me if I am wrong but don't several people believe in mercy killings of animals when they are wounded or do not stand a strong chance of survival? What is the difference?


I swear that if you say "It's because we are human and they are animals" I will puke. Doesn't your book also say that you will look over the animals? Yet we will kill them at will. There cannot be a double standard. So let me ask you; are you a vegetarian? If not, then you really need to rethink your position.

[saden1]

I blame the media. If it weren't for the media we would all be consistent and enlightened. 70, god willing our agendas will one day align.

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I can give you one example of religous bigotry at work in our culture. This very day, tens of thousands of people marched in Washington D.C. against the travesty that is abortion, yet it was not covered by any news outlets in this town. They wiilfully ignore this movement. Yet, if 500 homosexuals loiter near the capital in the wake of a democratic vote in California, the viewer cannot escape a sympathetic portrayal of their so called plight.

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I think the reality of Prop 8 is that it was actually done in by the media's desire to see Obama elected President. Here me out now. Normally the mainstream media would have done numerous stories on the referendum, all showing the homosexuals in the best possible light and the opponents as paranoid weirdos. Instead they mostly ignored it, only doing a few stories on the money aspect of the vote, very late in the race. Why would they do this? Beause the conventional wisdom in those circles is that John Kerry lost in part because several of these initiatives were on the ballot across the country. The media figured that if people made any sort of connection between Obama and Prop 8 it may hurt him in swing states like Virginia, Ohio etc. They may have even been told this explicitly by the Obama campaign. "We don't want to get tied into the prop 8 thing".

[dmek25]

that's why i cant watch fox news. the main story they cover every day is the impeachment of the Ill. governor. is that really the biggest piece of news nowadays? cant we just go back to the good ole days of news casts just reporting the news?

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by dmek25

that's why i cant watch fox news. the main story they cover every day is the impeachment of the Ill. governor. is that really the biggest piece of news nowadays? cant we just go back to the good ole days of news casts just reporting the news?

So the impeachment of a govenor based on allegations from the US Attroney's office that he tried to sell the incoming president's senate seat isn't news? Seems like news to me. CNN covers it the same amount it seems to me. These all day news channels only have so much news to report in a day.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

So the impeachment of a govenor based on allegations from the US Attroney's office that he tried to sell the incoming president's senate seat isn't news? Seems like news to me. CNN covers it the same amount it seems to me. These all day news channels only have so much news to report in a day.

im not saying it isn't news. its just that there are sooo many other important issues that are way ahead of the Governors bad intentions

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by dmek25

im not saying it isn't news. its just that there are sooo many other important issues that are way ahead of the Governors bad intentions

Right like allowing international funds to be used for pro-abortion groups :frusty:

[SmootSmack]

dmek and 70Chip are so different, yet so much the same.

[dmek25]

pro choice, not pro abortion

[Trample the Elderly]

I have a magic trick that prevents unwanted pregnancies, it's called pulling out. :headbange AHHH HA HA HA HA

How come everyone gets bailed out but me?

Who gives a flip about a woman's rights? Like they don't have all of the rights in the world already.

The last time I checked they didn't all of a sudden get knocked up, like it was a freak accident of nature. Yeah, ole Sue was at the ice cream store minding her own and bam, pregnant.

I could care less either way. My ex just got pregnant with some worthless punk who doesn't work. He dropped her like a bad habit. Now she's at her parent's house. Either way I have to pay for someone else's f**k up? Haven't these people ever heard of BJs?

I thought this post was about theft? News flash! The Communist and Arabs said they're going to stop lending us money. Where is The Blessed One and his buddies in Congress going to get that money from? They've only got a few months before the printing presses melt.

News flash! To all you liberals! It is not my responsibility to save the world. Nor do I or your arrogant selves have the power to do so. People get sick, people die, the Earth warms up, the Earth gets cold, planets die, it's been happening since the dawn of time. If degenerates want to run around killing people and stoning each other, it's not my business . . . .
unless they're in Henrico County. If they're in my neighborhood, don't worry about it. We can handle it ourselves.

Stop stealing my money! I don't make a lot to begin with. I don't feel sorry for starving children in the turd world. If God hadn't wanted them alive he would've miracled their asses into good health by now. I don't care if the turd world dies of AIDS. That's death's business, and I'm not the man to tell death how to do his job.

[saden1]

You're regressing Trample the Elderly, you were doing so well.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

You're regressing Trample the Elderly, you were doing so well.

I've been staying away from the political posts for a reason.

I didn't post on the Michael Vick in SF thread at all.

Theft is theft.

Sometimes I can't resist. It isn't right that I have to work everyday of my life and people like Madoff, and Congress get to sodomize everyone with their ponzie schemes.

If you want to save the world or make it a better place that's just fine. I applaude you and you're big heart. Please use your own money and labor, and don't be so lazy to have a politician do it for you. I'm struggling to keep my job and don't make a lot of money. I've a right to keep what I earn.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I have a magic trick that prevents unwanted pregnancies, it's called pulling out. :headbange AHHH HA HA HA HA

How come everyone gets bailed out but me?

Who gives a flip about a woman's rights? Like they don't have all of the rights in the world already.

The last time I checked they didn't all of a sudden get knocked up, like it was a freak accident of nature. Yeah, ole Sue was at the ice cream store minding her own and bam, pregnant.

I could care less either way. My ex just got pregnant with some worthless punk who doesn't work. He dropped her like a bad habit. Now she's at her parent's house. Either way I have to pay for someone else's f**k up? Haven't these people ever heard of BJs?

I thought this post was about theft? News flash! The Communist and Arabs said they're going to stop lending us money. Where is The Blessed One and his buddies in Congress going to get that money from? They've only got a few months before the printing presses melt.

News flash! To all you liberals! It is not my responsibility to save the world. Nor do I or your arrogant selves have the power to do so. People get sick, people die, the Earth warms up, the Earth gets cold, planets die, it's been happening since the dawn of time. If degenerates want to run around killing people and stoning each other, it's not my business . . . .
unless they're in Henrico County. If they're in my neighborhood, don't worry about it. We can handle it ourselves.

Stop stealing my money! I don't make a lot to begin with. I don't feel sorry for starving children in the turd world. If God hadn't wanted them alive he would've miracled their asses into good health by now. I don't care if the turd world dies of AIDS. That's death's business, and I'm not the man to tell death how to do his job.

Your honesty is much appreciated. I've long decided this is a basic sentiment in the conservative movement that constantly uses controversial issues in a bait and switch game that inevitably leads to lower taxes/higher subsidies for the rich and powerful.

... to that point anybody who believes abortion is a real issue for the leaders of the Republican party just reveals their own ignorance. Read Paul Weyrich's (top conservative activist originally from CO who started several of the radical conservative think-tanks in DC) discussions of Green vs Connelly and Roe. This bulwark of the movement openly admits the brass of the party machinery could care less about abortion, which became an afterthought in the platform. (BTW shouldn't we be a little suspicious that in thirty plus years of control of the White House, Congress and sometimes both no Republican pres has ever proposed the constitutional ban? Reagan actually promised this prior to his election but quickly forgot afterward.) It was Green v Connelly that inspired the conservative movement since the 1970's, especially for the religious right. Actually a fascinating case for any of you history nerds.

[Trample the Elderly]

I could give hoot about a Republican. George Bush and his father ruined the Republican party. They played lip sevice to the conservatives and libertarians. The religious people who used to vote Republican got lip sevice about abortion.

If you want to ban abortion or legalize it have the balls to pass it into law. The Supreme Court shouldn't twist legislation to make it say something it doesn't. Unlawful Search and Seizure means that the police need a warrant, (that's signed by a judge), to enter my property and root throught my personal effects. If you want reproductive law, write it and pass it. That's legal.

I'm not playing the victim. Everytime they take out money from my paycheck to fund BS pyramid schemes like social security it is robbery.

The rich and powerful own the business that I work for. They own what's left of our manufacturing base. They also grow the food I eat. I don't know about y'all but I've never been employed by a pauper. Class warfare doesn't work on me.

All I'm saying is what's good for the goose is good for the gander. If I can't steal millions of dollars than neither should Bernie Maydoff. I can't print money in my basement, but the privately owned Federal Reserve prints it like it's going out of style. If I don't pay taxes I go to jail. If a politician doesn't he gets made the head of the Treasury.

Conservative radical right? Y'all have no idea what a conservative or a libertarian is.

A conservative doesn't rule that eminent domain means you can seize people's property to build a Super Walmart. A conservative doesn't go to war without a legal declartion from Congress. A conservative doesn't steal my money and give it to people in Africa with AIDS. I don't want to see people drop dead. No matter how rabid I seem, I don't want people to suffer. The point is that it's not my business. Nor is it the business of our government. Their business is to make sure we don't drop dead.
A conservative doesn't have military bases all over the globe. A conservative minds his own GD business and makes sure that the American public doesn't get steam-rolled. A conservative doesn't let Depression Era legislation that stops the banks, insurance, and credit industries from merging get repealed. A conservative doesn't let our manufacturing get shipped overseas. A conservative doesn't import all of our consumer products from Communist sweat-shops. A conservative doesn't let narco terrorists and God knows who else (Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Al Qaida) stream across our borders. A conservative doesn't create more government, upon more government, upon more government. A conservative doesn't throw terrorist in a nicer installation that our own criminals get without charges. He tries them in a military court and has them shot by a firing squad if found guilty of sabotage. A conservative doesn't nominate one of his advisors to be a Supreme Court Justice. A conservative doesn't go along with a President just because he calls himself a conservative and he's a member of the same party. Conservatives don't go along with Keynesian economics.

Radical Right? There hasn't been too many right wingers in power since Reagan left office and even he wasn't that conservative.

If you think of conservatives as religious zealots who think that every word in the Bible is true, you'd probably believe that they're prevalent in government because of all of the lip service that goes out. They're not.

Elections have consequences? How is that? What is the difference between an old liberal glue-horse and a young junior socialist? It isn't much if you ask me. That's like giving me a glass of Coke and Pepsi then telling me that I'll have to live with the consequences if I don't drink one or the other.

I like my conservative libertarian philosophy like my bourbon: strong, well aged, and not watered down.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

A conservative doesn't rule that eminent domain means you can seize people's property to build a Super Walmart. A conservative doesn't go to war without a legal declartion from Congress. A conservative doesn't steal my money and give it to people in Africa with AIDS. I don't want to see people drop dead. No matter how rabid I seem, I don't want people to suffer. The point is that it's not my business. Nor is it the business of our government. Their business is to make sure we don't drop dead.
A conservative doesn't have military bases all over the globe. A conservative minds his own GD business and makes sure that the American public doesn't get steam-rolled. A conservative doesn't let Depression Era legislation that stops the banks, insurance, and credit industries from merging get repealed. A conservative doesn't let our manufacturing get shipped overseas. A conservative doesn't import all of our consumer products from Communist sweat-shops. A conservative doesn't let narco terrorists and God knows who else (Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Al Qaida) stream across our borders. A conservative doesn't create more government, upon more government, upon more government. A conservative doesn't throw terrorist in a nicer installation that our own criminals get without charges. He tries them in a military court and has them shot by a firing squad if found guilty of sabotage. A conservative doesn't nominate one of his advisors to be a Supreme Court Justice. A conservative doesn't go along with a President just because he calls himself a conservative and he's a member of the same party. Conservatives don't go along with Keynesian economics.

FTW!

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I have a magic trick that prevents unwanted pregnancies, it's called pulling out. :headbange AHHH HA HA HA HA

How come everyone gets bailed out but me?

Who gives a flip about a woman's rights? Like they don't have all of the rights in the world already.

The last time I checked they didn't all of a sudden get knocked up, like it was a freak accident of nature. Yeah, ole Sue was at the ice cream store minding her own and bam, pregnant.

I could care less either way. My ex just got pregnant with some worthless punk who doesn't work. He dropped her like a bad habit. Now she's at her parent's house. Either way I have to pay for someone else's f**k up? Haven't these people ever heard of BJs?

I thought this post was about theft? News flash! The Communist and Arabs said they're going to stop lending us money. Where is The Blessed One and his buddies in Congress going to get that money from? They've only got a few months before the printing presses melt.

News flash! To all you liberals! It is not my responsibility to save the world. Nor do I or your arrogant selves have the power to do so. People get sick, people die, the Earth warms up, the Earth gets cold, planets don't feel sorry for starving children in the turd world. If God hadn't wanted them alive he would've miracled their asses into good health by now. I don't care if the turd world dies of AIDS. That's death's business, and I'm not the man to tell death how to do his job.

As a woman I give a flip.

Try being a woman for a day, then make an ass statement like that. Has a woman done you wrong somewhere? Cause boy, do you sound bitter.