is there a way that we the fans can be heard???

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

Herein lies the greatest, and one of the largest conglomerates of same-sayers found anywhere discussing the state of the Redskins organization. It behooves me how the "little man" can be sitting somewhere idly by, absorbing every word we print and continuing to stand by his conviction "If it ain't broke don't fix it" attitude.

It behooves me how for the better part of a decade he can watch his team become an exercise in futility, and not heed the advice from so many wisdom dwellers far superior in the knowledge of kingdom building. However, something tells me that despite his stubborness and seemingly unwillingness to adjust, there's no way he won't eventually adhere to the logic of his detractors and change his evil ways.

I'm not trying to be an ass, but you're totally misusing the word 'behoove' in this post. Also, someone quoted it to say, "nice post" and, while your point comes across, if you knew the meaning of the word 'behoove' it would make no sense whatsoever.

Main Entry: be·hoove
Pronunciation: \bi-ˈhüv, bē-\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): be·hooved; be·hoov·ing
Etymology: Middle English behoven, from Old English behōfian, from behōf
Date: before 12th century

transitive verb : to be necessary, proper, or advantageous for
<it behooves us to go>

intransitive verb : to be necessary, fit, or proper

[PennSkinsFan]

http://dcprosportsreport.com/2009/10/boycott-the-redskins.html

A "boycott the Redskins" website has even appeared [ironically featuring ads for Redskins tickets at the top of the page]. Reading websites that cover the Redskins and listening to local sports talk radio, it's clear an increasing number of fans have correctly concluded that firing Jim Zorn or signing another high-priced veteran isn't going to make a difference. As I've written repeatedly: Coaches and players come and go, Dan Snyder and mediocrity stick around.

[BrennanBeliever]

Its disheartening to see the true Redskins fans on this site being eclipsed by this bandwagoning, ambiguous group of posers.

The person in this thread is looking for a galvanizing solution, and all I'm hearing are a bunch of gutless, spineless suburbanite naysayers. Where is your resolve and why express an opinion if your solution is to do nothing?

"What good is a cynic with no better plan"

-Ben Harper

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BrennanBeliever

Its disheartening to see the true Redskins fans on this site being eclipsed by this bandwagoning, ambiguous group of posers.

The person in this thread is looking for a galvanizing solution, and all I'm hearing are a bunch of gutless, spineless suburbanite naysayers. Where is your resolve and why express an opinion if your solution is to do nothing?

"What good is a cynic with no better plan"

-Ben Harper

Someone needs a hobby

[beemnsevenspop]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Someone needs a hobby

I was going to say someone needs a drink, but in my case, they're one in the same....

[BleedBurgundy]

*edit* pointless, never mind.

[scowan]

I am with you guys that have stopped watching. I have been going over to a friend's house every Sunday for 5 years here in KY to watch the Skins because he has NFL Sunday ticket. I feel bad for him, because he has spent all this money to watch the Skins every week and they are so bad. I'm not going over this week. The Giants/Saints game is the local broadcast here and that will be a much better game to watch IMO. I love the Skins, but I also love the NFL and after watching the Colts/Titans game Sunday night, I just got depressed at how good the Colts are and how bad the Skins are. Once the Skins get past this game, its going to get really ugly against the better teams coming up on their schedule and I am tired of being frustrated and angry every Sunday. There are more positive things to do with my time on Sunday afternoons. Until we see a change in GM, we are going to forever be a bottom tier team like the Raiders. Where is Jack Kent Cooke when we need him?

[beemnsevenspop]

Originally Posted by scowan

Once the Skins get past this game, its going to get really ugly against the better teams coming up on their schedule and I am tired of being frustrated and angry every Sunday. There are more positive things to do with my time on Sunday afternoons. Until we see a change in GM, we are going to forever be a bottom tier team like the Raiders. Where is Jack Kent Cooke when we need him?

Not to be argumenative, and I may be reading more into your choice of words than you had intended, but given KC's performance last weekend, do you see the 'Skins winning this Sunday? I know I sure don't.

Frankly, I think 2-14 (Yes, I know Oakland beckons but hey, EVERY OTHER bottom feeder in the NFL is transformed into Superbowl contenders on gameday with the 'Skins) is much more than just a distinct possibility....

[scowan]

Originally Posted by beemnsevenspop

Not to be argumenative, and I may be reading more into your choice of words than you had intended, but given KC's performance last weekend, do you see the 'Skins winning this Sunday? I know I sure don't.

Frankly, I think 2-14 (Yes, I know Oakland beckons but hey, EVERY OTHER bottom feeder in the NFL is transformed into Superbowl contenders on gameday with the 'Skins) is much more than just a distinct possibility....

I was just saying this is one of the last winable games before a streach of "no chance" games.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Allow me to offer another way for fans to demonstrate their displeasure with the ownership and direction of the Redskins.


Let me acknowledge that the calls for fans to stop buying licensed Redskins gear/"stuff" (that includes Redskins lunchboxes for your kids/grandkids) will get some attention. If sales go down, someone will notice; that is a certainty. The same goes if the Skins find themselves unable to sell out the stadium through season ticket sales. That would be a wake-up call too.


HOW-EVAH, the chances that the financial damage that fans might inflict on Danny Boy would be so great that he would choose to sell the team are minimal at best. Consider that he is - more than most folks - driven by ego.


His ego is fed by the very fact that he is one of a very few folks who owns an NFL team. One of the few "clubs" that is more exclusive than "NFL Owner" would be "Supreme Court Justice". He is one of an elite few... Since other sports owners have also invested in/bought up English soccer teams, Danny Boy is activily shopping to join that elite club too. [Two sources say he will close a deal within the next 12 months.] He is an exec producer in the credits on the latest Tom Cruise flick. All of those things make him "special" and that is what interests him most - - maybe even more than adding to his substantial net worth.


Now, fans can inflict ego bruises a lot more reliably than they can inflict financial bruises. A local radio station wants fans to show up at games with bags on their heads. The problem with that is that it has already been done AND that Danny Boy can always convince himself that the fans are angry at the coach or the quarterback but not angry at him. [If he wavers and starts to think the fans dislike him, he has plenty of butt-boys/yes-men around him to pat him on the head and tell him that it's someone else's fault.]


Now, if that same radio station would spring for the cost of putting the name Danny Boy Snyder on the bags along with a big red circle and a slash through it, that would get a lot of attention on the telecast and on Sports Center and on YouTube. Now you would begin to get Danny Boy's attention because you would have lots and lots of fans aiming their displeasure unambiguously at him.


In Baltimore, Orioles' fans staged a walkout in the middle of a game. A local radio station organized it and it got loads of media attention when it happened. Imagine if only 10,000 fans marched out of a game at FedEx at some pre-announced time during a national telecast (MNF against the Eagles anyone?). If it was widely known in advance that this protest was going to happen and that Danny Boy Snyder was the object of the protest and it actually came off, that would get Danny Boy's attention.


Imagine for a moment that the crowd is assembling at Fed Ex waiting for the game to begin and Danny Boy ushers his guests into his owner's suite to preside over the game. And at that point a large fraction of the audience points directly to the owner's suite and starts to chant "You suck!" If that goes on for 2 minutes, someone will have it on YouTube in less than an hour...


Will any of that get him to change his ways? Not likely. Danny Boy is in his mid-40s and people of that age do not change easily without lots of therapy and lots of commitment on their part to make a change. I see no commitment on his part to change so put that in the "not gonna happen" category.


But if fans are sufficiently frustrated to want to get his attention for any reason, think about hitting him in the ego in addition to hitting him in the wallet. It's easier - - and it might be more fun.

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

But if fans are sufficiently frustrated to want to get his attention for any reason, think about hitting him in the ego in addition to hitting him in the wallet. It's easier - - and it might be more fun.

Good post. Didn't want to quote the whole thing, because it is long. Good point, and also very true.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BrennanBeliever

Its disheartening to see the true Redskins fans on this site being eclipsed by this bandwagoning, ambiguous group of posers.

The person in this thread is looking for a galvanizing solution, and all I'm hearing are a bunch of gutless, spineless suburbanite naysayers. Where is your resolve and why express an opinion if your solution is to do nothing?

"What good is a cynic with no better plan"

-Ben Harper

So what's your plan?

[hail_2_da_skins]

I'm an advocate of "Mutiny at FedEx Field" but I cannot actively participate because I don't live in the DC area. I'm originally from DC and have been a Redskin fan since the 60's. I moved to St. Louis after I graduated from college and have been to every Redskin game in St Louis since. So, how can I show my frustration with the franchise?
1. Do not go to any Redskin games until they change their philosophy.
2. Do not purchase any officially licensed Redskin gear.
3. Stop watching the games live on satellite DirecTV. (This will be the biggest sacrifice. I have the NFL Package. I will switch to watching the Red Zone channel and watch how football should be played on Sundays. Cannot switch to another team, just not in my DNA.)

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hail_2_da_skins

I'm an advocate of "Mutiny at FedEx Field" but I cannot actively participate because I don't live in the DC area. I'm originally from DC and have been a Redskin fan since the 60's. I moved to St. Louis after I graduated from college and have been to every Redskin game in St Louis since. So, how can I show my frustration with the franchise?
1. Do not go to any Redskin games until they change their philosophy.
2. Do not purchase any officially licensed Redskin gear.
3. Stop watching the games live on satellite DirecTV. (This will be the biggest sacrifice. I have the NFL Package. I will switch to watching the Red Zone channel and watch how football should be played on Sundays. Cannot switch to another team, just not in my DNA.)

So if your watching the Red Zone and you see the skins are kicking butt your not going to switch over to the game?

[drew54]

Originally Posted by firstdown

So if your watching the Red Zone and you see the skins are kicking butt your not going to switch over to the game?

If that were to happen, the most logically thing to follow would be the phone would ring, and you would wake up from your dream.