2010 Combine

[53Fan]

WalterFootball.com: 2010 NFL Draft Combine Stock Report: Day 1

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Other than the Jags or perhaps the Saints, I don't see any team taking Tebow in the first round. Chances are, he'll be taken by a crappy team in the top of the 2nd.

EDIT - reading some of the other responses, I think NE would actually be perfect fit for Tebow. I hadnt thought of Indy, but I don't think their Caldwell and Moore are creative enough to take advantage of him. We all know Peyton Manning runs the offense there. If Moore called a play that involved Tebow coming on the field, Manning would ignore him. If Moore called a package that required manning to leave the field and Tebow to come in, Manning would just tell him to screw off and not a single player on offense would listen to Moore over Manning. The potential for ugliness is just too great there.

Brady, on the other hand, is a company man and does what he's told. Love him or hate him, Belichick is an offensive genius and would find a way to get the most out of Tebow.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Other than the Jags or perhaps the Saints, I don't see any team taking Tebow in the first round. Chances are, he'll be taken by a crappy team in the top of the 2nd.

EDIT - reading some of the other responses, I think NE would actually be perfect fit for Tebow. I hadnt thought of Indy, but I don't think their Caldwell and Moore are creative enough to take advantage of him. We all know Peyton Manning runs the offense there. If Moore called a play that involved Tebow coming on the field, Manning would ignore him. If Moore called a package that required manning to leave the field and Tebow to come in, Manning would just tell him to screw off and not a single player on offense would listen to Moore over Manning. The potential for ugliness is just too great there.

Brady, on the other hand, is a company man and does what he's told. Love him or hate him, Belichick is an offensive genius and would find a way to get the most out of Tebow.

He is?

Defense is his specialty.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

He is?

Defense is his specialty.

Last I heard, he was also their offensive coordinator and they always seem to put up alot of points. his offense turned drew bledsoe, tom brady, and matt cassel into stars. sure, bledsoe was a 1st round pick, but he never took buffaloe or dallas to any measure of success. matt cassel looked like an all pro in belichick's offense and looks like total crap in kansas city.

granted, football is a team sport and there are a multitude of external factors that affect every player at every position, but belichick's offense makes QBs look good. He's a football genius. period. just because he had a defensive background before becoming a head coach, doesnt mean he's not a great offensive coach.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Last I heard, he was also their offensive coordinator and they always seem to put up alot of points. his offense turned drew bledsoe, tom brady, and matt cassel into stars. sure, bledsoe was a 1st round pick, but he never took buffaloe or dallas to any measure of success. matt cassel looked like an all pro in belichick's offense and looks like total crap in kansas city.

granted, football is a team sport and there are a multitude of external factors that affect every player at every position, but belichick's offense makes QBs look good. He's a football genius. period. just because he had a defensive background before becoming a head coach, doesnt mean he's not a great offensive coach.

Last I heard, it was Charlie Weis 2000-2004 and Josh McDaniels 2005-2008 who were responsible for the offense at NE. I believe Bill O'Brien called the plays in 2009, but not 100% on that.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Last I heard, he was also their offensive coordinator and they always seem to put up alot of points. his offense turned drew bledsoe, tom brady, and matt cassel into stars. sure, bledsoe was a 1st round pick, but he never took buffaloe or dallas to any measure of success. matt cassel looked like an all pro in belichick's offense and looks like total crap in kansas city.

granted, football is a team sport and there are a multitude of external factors that affect every player at every position, but belichick's offense makes QBs look good. He's a football genius. period. just because he had a defensive background before becoming a head coach, doesnt mean he's not a great offensive coach.

He made his name in this league by coaching the defenses of the Super Bowl winning Giants back in the 80's. It's not his offense per say, he has no direct input on the design or the play calls. The most involved he gets with the offense during the course of a game is deciding to go for it on 4th down. Thats it. Maybe he'll suggest to his OC that he would like to see more running or pass plays at certain points but not much else.

Basically Belicheck gets to pick an offensive coordinator. That is the extent of Bellichecks offense.

On top of that I can't think of a coach in the modern era that has coordinated both sides of the ball at the pro level. It's like getting an ENT to become a heart surgeon. Offense and Defensive coordinators are highly specialized positions. I mean it's hard enough for a player to switch sides of the ball let alone a coach.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Other than the Jags or perhaps the Saints, I don't see any team taking Tebow in the first round. Chances are, he'll be taken by a crappy team in the top of the 2nd.

EDIT - reading some of the other responses, I think NE would actually be perfect fit for Tebow. I hadnt thought of Indy, but I don't think their Caldwell and Moore are creative enough to take advantage of him. We all know Peyton Manning runs the offense there. If Moore called a play that involved Tebow coming on the field, Manning would ignore him. If Moore called a package that required manning to leave the field and Tebow to come in, Manning would just tell him to screw off and not a single player on offense would listen to Moore over Manning. The potential for ugliness is just too great there.

Brady, on the other hand, is a company man and does what he's told. Love him or hate him, Belichick is an offensive genius and would find a way to get the most out of Tebow.

why would there be a rush to get him onto the field in some sort of package?

are you thinking that they'll use him like Vick? I don't see why Indy would do that

[diehardskin2982]

panthers pick up Tebow lol

[MTK]

The Pats don't techically have an offensive coordinator, but those duties are basically handled by their QB coach Bill O'Brien.

They don't have a defensive coordinator right now either, looks like Belichick is going to handle that role.

Patriots will not hire a defensive coordinator, Belichick to expand role - Extra Points - Boston.com

[CRedskinsRule]

I am willing to bet that LeFevour's stock just dropped dramatically:

from Doug_Farrar twitter

Central Michigan QB Dan LeFevour says that he will not throw at the Combine because he wants receivers he's in rhythm with...

[MTK]

Has anyone's draft stock really dropped from not throwing at the combine?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Has anyone's draft stock really dropped from not throwing at the combine?

I don't really know, but generally there is some sort of medical reason that is used to prop it up, or in Tebow's case working on a new rhythm. To come out and say he doesn't want to throw except to his receivers would send the wrong message to the teams, in my opinion.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Has anyone's draft stock really dropped from not throwing at the combine?

Apparently Clausens stock is about to take a huge drop.
Report: QB Clausen won't be 100% before draft - NFL- nbcsports.msnbc.com

Of course keep in mind that Crabtree got picked at 10th overall without having a pre draft workout.

NFL Network's Charley Casserly reports that Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen (toe surgery) is unlikely to get in a full workout before April's draft.
The full workout would consist of "running, cutting and dropping." It sounds like Clausen should be ready for his NFL team's summer camps, but he apparently won't be able to throw for evaluators at the Irish Pro Day. We'd say this was a slight concern if Clausen was a serious candidate to be drafted No. 1 overall, but Sam Bradford has clearly emerged as the favorite.

Lol, anyone thinking of an Okung-Clausen combo? Well I'm not. I just had one of my JC mood swings. I want him back for next year and beyond, or at least a fair shake.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Apparently Clausens stock is about to take a huge drop.
Report: QB Clausen won't be 100% before draft - NFL- nbcsports.msnbc.com

Of course keep in mind that Crabtree got picked at 10th overall without having a pre draft workout.



Lol, anyone thinking of an Okung-Clausen combo? Well I'm not. I just had one of my JC mood swings. I want him back for next year and beyond, or at least a fair shake.

I've had my Bradford mood swings as well. And the only cure temporarily for them is March 5th(Free agency starts), and the full treatment for them is April 22nd-24th

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I've had my Bradford mood swings as well. And the only cure temporarily for them is March 5th(Free agency starts), and the full treatment for them is April 22nd-24th

So you're saying that in the end the only true cure is following the man and accepting whatever decision he makes. To sacrifice my values and everything I stand for in the name of conformity.....ok, I guess I can do that.

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Weird. First Mike Florio, then you. I'm on to your guys who steal my blog ideas before I actually publish them.

In Soviet Russia blog publish you.