Utah killer executed by firing squad

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You don't actually think this country can keep on going on the way it has been forever do you? Collapse is coming soon enough. It might not be this year or next year, but it's coming. It has happened before, it will happen again. This time more of you will starve because you don't know how to grow food. You'll depend on (or be taken advantage of by), people like me. We have no problems with killing or murder. Actually, there are a few people that I'm going to off as soon as the cops are out of the way. This country is being run into the grown. I've prepared and I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be fun.

I'm trying to decide if this type of outlook is genius or just flat out frightening...

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm trying to decide if this type of outlook is genius or just flat out frightening...

Always the prophet........

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I'm trying to decide if this type of outlook is genius or just flat out frightening...

the two are not mutually exclusive, far from it really

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You don't actually think this country can keep on going on the way it has been forever do you? Collapse is coming soon enough. It might not be this year or next year, but it's coming. It has happened before, it will happen again. This time more of you will starve because you don't know how to grow food. You'll depend on (or be taken advantage of by), people like me. We have no problems with killing or murder. Actually, there are a few people that I'm going to off as soon as the cops are out of the way. This country is being run into the grown. I've prepared and I'm looking forward to it. It's going to be fun.

"dang it dale"

[SmootSmack]

How do you run a country into the grown?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How do you run a country into the grown?

Ship the jobs overseas.

Dumb down the populace through pop culture and sub-par schools.

Slowly take away people's rights in exchange for security.

Tax the middle class into oblivion.

Let everyone and anyone come over your borders.

Degrade morals with drugs and sex.

Make wars without end.

Use race to divide and conquer the people.

I can go on forever with this.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Ship the jobs overseas.

Dumb down the populace through pop culture and sub-par schools.

Slowly take away people's rights in exchange for security.

Tax the middle class into oblivion.

Let everyone and anyone come over your borders.

Degrade morals with drugs and sex.

Make wars without end.

Use race to divide and conquer the people.

I can go on forever with this.

Honestly you can draw comparisons across any civilization since the beginning of time. Yet we continue on.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Ship the jobs overseas.

Dumb down the populace through pop culture and sub-par schools.

Slowly take away people's rights in exchange for security.

Tax the middle class into oblivion.

Let everyone and anyone come over your borders.

Degrade morals with drugs and sex.

Make wars without end.

Use race to divide and conquer the people.

I can go on forever with this.

If we abolish the death penalty, which is much more expensive than sentences of life in prison, we'd have more money to create better schools. Or we could reduce taxes on the middle class. Or we'd have more money to put more cops on the street, making us safer.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Ship the jobs overseas.

Dumb down the populace through pop culture and sub-par schools.

Slowly take away people's rights in exchange for security.

Tax the middle class into oblivion.

Let everyone and anyone come over your borders.

Degrade morals with drugs and sex.

Make wars without end.

Use race to divide and conquer the people.

I can go on forever with this.

Swing...and a miss

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Ship the jobs overseas.

Dumb down the populace through pop culture and sub-par schools.

Slowly take away people's rights in exchange for security.

Tax the middle class into oblivion.

Let everyone and anyone come over your borders.

Degrade morals with drugs and sex.

Make wars without end.

Use race to divide and conquer the people.

I can go on forever with this.

degrade morals.. yet you plan to kill people when the cops are out of the way?

ummmmmmmmmmm.. which morals are we talking about here?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

degrade morals.. yet you plan to kill people when the cops are out of the way?

ummmmmmmmmmm.. which morals are we talking about here?

he's already been degraded apparently

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Ship the jobs overseas.

Dumb down the populace through pop culture and sub-par schools.

Slowly take away people's rights in exchange for security.

Tax the middle class into oblivion.

Let everyone and anyone come over your borders.

Degrade morals with drugs and sex.

Make wars without end.

Use race to divide and conquer the people.

I can go on forever with this.

TTE you and I see a lot of the same things, one difference I see though, is it seems like you are expecting anarchy(or revolution) to replace our current government. Revolution from the populace won't happen, the govt has made sure of that. A democratic republic is too stable to go directly to anarchy-the masses of people are not nearly restless enough to go there. Eventually the govt will have to defend itself from the people and external, I suspect by an american caeser. Remember rome survived caesers coup, and the wealthy were content for another 500 years. I doubt society will decay to anarchy in my lifetime, but I would be shocked if my children lived in a true democratic republic, or even one like our current form, when they turn 50.

As for the death penalty, joe's statements basically ring true for me.

[saden1]

Some men deserve to die. If you're John Allen Muhammad, you get murked no matter the cost, if you're Daniel Sickles you get a prison sentence, if you're Daryl Atkins you get to spend time in a mental institution.

[Schneed10]

Lots of thoughtful posts going back and forth, but in the end I'm not sure this one is about thinking as much as it is feeling.

Seeing a murderer/rapist executed feels good to me. Makes things feel right.

Setting laws/punishment in a society is not a science. It comes down to the majority's wishes. Right now, a majority of people in a number of states feel good about executing these criminals. That's all that matters.

Where to draw the line as to who gets executed? Where the majority feels right about it. I think it's in a good place.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Lots of thoughtful posts going back and forth, but in the end I'm not sure this one is about thinking as much as it is feeling.

Seeing a murderer/rapist executed feels good to me. Makes things feel right.

Setting laws/punishment in a society is not a science. It comes down to the majority's wishes. Right now, a majority of people in a number of states feel good about executing these criminals. That's all that matters.

Where to draw the line as to who gets executed? Where the majority feels right about it. I think it's in a good place.

Good post, and 100% agree. Well thought out arguments on both sides, but in the end, I feel the same as you do. It's probably in a good place.