The Official Defense Has Major Issues/Fire Jim Haslett Thread

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by kjahorski

probably been said on this thread...but Carlos Rogers sucks...period......he is a liability.....If I was the QB on the other team I would be focusing on him the whole game. He always seems to be giving too much cushion, can't tackle that well, and has hands like salad tongs......he has 1 interception a year for the past six years, on average. Gave up a penaltly today to get an interception and still dropped the ball.....pathetic............Hall had a terrible game also, but I have much more confidence with him, at least he can catch the ball.!........as long as Rogers is in the game....a 3rd and 5 is a gimme.......in most cases.....unless the QB has a bad pass......I hate him.....!

AMEN.. When I said 22 was bush league earlier during the game, people actually took his back.. The guy is a terrible Starting CB, he constantly gives up stupid plays and has his whole career.. It would be different if he made plays on the ball and actually got INT's, but he hardly ever does that. He talked shit on the organization last season and should have been cut then.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by kjahorski

probably been said on this thread...but Carlos Rogers sucks...period......he is a liability.....If I was the QB on the other team I would be focusing on him the whole game. He always seems to be giving too much cushion, can't tackle that well, and has hands like salad tongs......he has 1 interception a year for the past six years, on average. Gave up a penaltly today to get an interception and still dropped the ball.....pathetic............Hall had a terrible game also, but I have much more confidence with him, at least he can catch the ball.!........as long as Rogers is in the game....a 3rd and 5 is a gimme.......in most cases.....unless the QB has a bad pass......I hate him.....!

I disagree but whether he is a bum or not he is the best corner on the team from a coverage standpoint. So we cannot get rid of him at this point.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I disagree but whether he is a bum or not he is the best corner on the team from a coverage standpoint. So we cannot get rid of him at this point.

That's not saying much

[mooby]

Carter is definitely not a fit for the 3-4 and did anybody else notice how the guards got downhill and were able to get to Fletcher before he could make a play to stop the run? I noticed on several running plays that the guards were quick to get downhill and either chip or block him enough that he couldn't get to the running back.

I probably shouldn't have put the "fire Jim Haslett" part in the title because I'm not on that bandwagon but I figured enough people are already pissed at him that I might as well. My whole point, and the point that several people have already made, is that why does Shanahan say we are trying to win now when we know it's gonna take multiple years to transition to a decent 3-4? Going into the season I had my doubts that we could take last year's 4-3 starters and transition them into 3-4 roles and it looks like that's a big part of the problem now.

So do we just have to sit back and accept that we won't be trying for the division title and that it's going to take multiple years to transition to an effective 3-4, or what? What we've seen so far is an attacking defense that everybody and their mothers' know how to counter, but we haven't seen Haslett adjust to the offenses' adjustments. Either way something needs to be done.

[CultBrennan59]

First off if we haven't hit the panic button already, we definitely did it today.

Hasletts defense would be great if we had either a great NT/secondary, or if we just stayed with the 4-3. I think the defense will improve.

today to be honest we just played bad on both sides of the ball.

and someone asked if theres a dominate NT coming out next year in the draft, and the answer is J. Powe from Ole Miss.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

First off if we haven't hit the panic button already, we definitely did it today.

Hasletts defense would be great if we had either a great NT/secondary, or if we just stayed with the 4-3. I think the defense will improve.

today to be honest we just played bad on both sides of the ball.

and someone asked if theres a dominate NT coming out next year in the draft, and the answer is J. Powe from Ole Miss.

If we had a great NT, FS and 3-4 linebackers we would be in pretty good shape....

[BleedBurgundy]

Watching Sunday Night Football and i'm seeing a lot of 4-3 looks from two 3-4 defenses. I would think Haslett has got to see the writing on the wall and start incorporating a better mix for the personnel he has.

[SBXVII]

Amazing how fast the pack will turn.

I'm going to start making a list of bums... week one was AH, week two was Doughty, week three is Rogers, Carter, Fletcher, and Haslett. I forget anyone? is there anyone left? lol.

Look across the board I saw problems, I'm not sure if it was scheme or players not fitting the scheme or simply just players not doing their jobs. The players I saw giving up big plays, or not tackling;
Buchanon
Carter
Rogers
Hall

crap I could list just about everyone on defense. It just seemed like when the team quickly became 14 points down every player on defense must have felt they had to make a play and ended up over reacting and on just about every play someone different broke down.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

Amazing how fast the pack will turn.

I'm going to start making a list of bums... week one was AH, week two was Doughty, week three is Rogers, Carter, Fletcher, and Haslett. I forget anyone? is there anyone left? lol.

Look across the board I saw problems, I'm not sure if it was scheme or players not fitting the scheme or simply just players not doing their jobs. The players I saw giving up big plays, or not tackling;
Buchanon
Carter
Rogers
Hall
crap I could list just about everyone on defense. It just seemed like when the team quickly became 14 points down every player on defense must have felt they had to make a play and ended up over reacting and on just about every play someone different broke down.

Thats great you ideatify players in coverage as the culprits without acknowledging our D-Line (Kemo, Daniels, Carrakter, Albert, Gholston) is probably the worst in the league. See in the NFL if you have all day to throw the ball guys come open...

[Justinchuck189]

We don't need to fire Haslett. We just need to pull Greg Blache out of retirement and hire him as a defensive assistant. Then when we lose against the Eagles, Packers, Colts, and Bears, we let Blache make the defensive calls against the Lions. Blache will somehow call a better game and the fans will say "See it's not the defensive line, it's the coach."

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Justinchuck189

We don't need to fire Haslett. We just need to pull Greg Blache out of retirement and hire him as a defensive assistant. Then when we lose against the Eagles, Packers, Colts, and Bears, we let Blache make the defensive calls against the Lions. Blache will somehow call a better game and the fans will say "See it's not the defensive line, it's the coach."

I wonder what the defensive version of the swinging gate play is like?

[Dirtbag59]

Can't read my, can't read my, can't read my defense....oh wait you can.

[diehardskin2982]

We don't need to pitch it in just yet. The Redskins need to swallow their pride and come together as a team, both players and coaches. here is a list of the changes that need to happen.
1. The Haynesworth-Shanahan spat needs to be over. Start him, play him, and use his strengths for your the teams benefit.
2. Commit to the running game. Not for one play, not for one quarter, not for one half, the whole game.
3.The defense needs to attack. Pressure, pressure, pressure.
4. Play our youth. Devin Thomas need to play and develop as a widereceiver. He can only get bettter in game time situation.
5. Spread the ball around. Not Just Moss and Cooley.

[Texanskin]

listen...u freaking ''fire the coach'' fans are crazy... We won 4 games last year with this same squad...(except trent & mcnabb). Remember....Shanahan wanted this defense....and we are in year 1 of our transition!!! People please calm down with the firing crap....if you want to say our run D is garbage....fine. (u are correct).....we should run the ball more...(u are correct)...but firing a coach who inherited players that don't fit a new system is beyond crazy.....this type of impulsive reaction is why our franchise has sucked the past 15+ years....we have to show patience with this new regime...again..we are 7 months removed from going 4-12.....stop reading/listening to the hype about how many games we should win and understand...u are what ur record says...right now...we are only 1-2

[skinsfan69]

90% of you could not wait for blache to leave. now you same people wish he was still coaching this defense.