Wipe that Stupid Grin Off Your F***ing Face Eli, Before Orakpo Gouges Out Your Eyeballs and Skull F***s You! It's F***ing Giants Week You S***heads!!!

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Carolina is a freaking mess.

And the other teams you mentioned aren't in year 1 of a new regime. Let's see where we stand next year at this time in comparison.

yes they are,no argument there.Im not talking about next yr,Im talking about this yr.
man I love your optimism,wish I had it.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Carolina is a freaking mess.

And the other teams you mentioned aren't in year 1 of a new regime. Let's see where we stand next year at this time in comparison.

You sure? Their secondary has been top notch this season and the have a good running game. Besides, our lack of a pass rush would be a breath of fresh air for their QB.

[warpaint]

Here is a thread title.

Wipe the snot off your face and grab your boot straps pick yourself up, dust yourself off and be a man.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Here is a thread title.

Wipe the snot off your face and grab your boot straps pick yourself up, dust yourself off and be a man.

winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this has to be the thread title for next week, HAS TO BE!

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well I only started to show how idiotic it is to act like ranting and raving (hello Chad Dukes) means you're a more passionate fan and care more. Either way Matty is taking back over these threads

Yeah. I understand why you did it , and this wasn't meant as a dig upwards you personally.


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[MTK]

Just trying to be fair. The years before Allen/Shanahan aren't their fault. And for their first year I wasn't expecting a miracle. We were 4-12 last year for a reason. Building a winner takes some time.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Just trying to be fair. The years before Allen/Shanahan aren't their fault. And for their first year I wasn't expecting a miracle. We were 4-12 last year for a reason. Building a winner takes some time.

I certainly don't disagree but the thing that worries me is that they're trying to do it by adding free agents and band aids rather then building a core of young talent to build around. I'd love to be the first team to successfully pull it off, but if you want to be a regular playoff contender you need to do it by building young talent and adding role players. Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Indy, New England, Philly, NY Giants are all products of building a talented young core and then building around them.

[MTK]

Well they had one offseason with a limited amount of draft picks and a very limited FA market. Tough to turn into Cinderella overnight with that scenario.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Well they had one offseason with a limited amount of draft picks and a very limited FA market. Tough to turn into Cinderella overnight with that scenario.

They exacerbated their inherited problem by trading away more picks for two guys who seem to be longshots to make it even 3 more years. They also lower the drafted position we're getting in 2011 because of grabbing McNabb as well.

[MTK]

Yeah but they still have free agency and Snyder's wallet, which I'm sure they'll be digging deep into for 2011.

[htownskinfan]

Driving to work this morning the local sports show,the local pro football beat writer was talking about us,and the more I started thinking about it the madder I got.
He was talking about how GB realized they had the personel to run the 3-4 and drafted wisely to help it,unlike Shanahan,who decided he wanted to run the 3-4 and take a top 5 defense and turn it into the worst defense.Its things like that is 1 of the reasons why were looked at as laughingstocks.
Matty,you said building a winner takes time,which is true.But when you pull an idiotic move like taking a top 5 defense and switching to a 3-4 without the personel to run it,the regime is not looking good from the get go.I dont see how anyone can defend Shanahans actions on that subject.
And getting back to Carolina,they might be a mess this year but they have been better than us every yr except 1 going back to 2002,
Plus,as I previously stated,their coach didnt take a top 5 defense and turn it into the worst,they didnt pay a guy 40million for 1 season of work,etc etc.Thats why were worse off than Carolina,but thats just my opinion.

[calia]

What's crazy to me is that we could very well end up this season with only 1 more win to show than last season. And while I know we're rebuilding, when one takes into account that even last year we lost a bunch of tight games, it's hard to conclude that this Redskins team is any better -- any better at all -- than last year's Redskins team. Indeed, there's a compelling argument to be made that in many respects we're worse. I realize we've had some terrible injuries (such that our running game is absent and two impact players in our secondary have missed significant time in Landry and Rogers). I also realize a miracle turnaround in one season is out of the question with a decade of abject neglect and mismanagement. On the other hand, to have essentially no improvement in the product on the field (and simply having a better attitude isn't enough) is tough to swallow.

I get the impression that defeat has set in with this team this season. Even against the Eagles we fought back and scored some points. Yesterday's effort was not even close. With the playoffs out of reach, we now have to be content to wait for the offseason -- again.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

Driving to work this morning the local sports show,the local pro football beat writer was talking about us,and the more I started thinking about it the madder I got.
He was talking about how GB realized they had the personel to run the 3-4 and drafted wisely to help it,unlike Shanahan,who decided he wanted to run the 3-4 and take a top 5 defense and turn it into the worst defense.Its things like that is 1 of the reasons why were looked at as laughingstocks.
Matty,you said building a winner takes time,which is true.But when you pull an idiotic move like taking a top 5 defense and switching to a 3-4 without the personel to run it,the regime is not looking good from the get go.I dont see how anyone can defend Shanahans actions on that subject.
And getting back to Carolina,they might be a mess this year but they have been better than us every yr except 1 going back to 2002,
Plus,as I previously stated,their coach didnt take a top 5 defense and turn it into the worst,they didnt pay a guy 40million for 1 season of work,etc etc.Thats why were worse off than Carolina,but thats just my opinion.

Well first off it was a top 10 defense, 10th overall in yards given up to be exact.

With any scheme change you're not going to have 100% of the parts in place to make it work. We don't have all the parts in place for the offense yet either, so should they have just stuck with last year's scheme?

You do realize Carolina has 1 win and Fox has one foot out the door don't you? I'm really amazed at this logic that they are somehow better off.

[SmootSmack]

Well Carolina is paying their QB about $15 million over the next three years...while he plays in Cleveland, if he even stays in the league

[CRedskinsRule]

Time for people to quit harping on the change to 3-4. Clearly our offense isn't ready, and if we are going to change to a 3-4, then this year was just as good a year as any. Every player on the team has had a chance to prove themselves, now it's the coach's job to evaluate and fill what needs to be filled. Maybe if we had waited, we would have had a top 10 D, and and 20th O, nothing new for us, and still be in the same position. Everyone that remains next year will know what is expected, there will be no (or very few) role changes, and hopefully that leads to a more coherent team.

or not.