Nnamdi Asomugha contract voided should Redskins go after him or do you think the price will be too high.

[GMScud]

IMO signing Asomugha (a 30+ year old vet who'll command massive $$) would be a repetition of what has plagued this team for years. I have no doubt that Nnamdi can be a top shelf corner for another 3 years or so, but for the Redskins he's not worth the $40+ million in guarantees he'll likely get.

I like Nnamdi a lot as a person and as a player, but I don't think he's a fit here.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

IMO signing Asomugha (a 30+ year old vet who'll command massive $$) would be a repetition of what has plagued this team for years. I have no doubt that Nnamdi can be a top shelf corner for another 3 years or so, but for the Redskins he's not worth the $40+ million in guarantees he'll likely get.

I like Nnamdi a lot as a person and as a player, but I don't think he's a fit here.

Well all signs point to him not having any character issues that I know, he is probably in the tail-end of his prime, and is easily one of the best corners in the league right now. So, money aside, I wouldn't have any concerns in signing him. My concern would be our terrible record of bringing talented players and somehow the team doesn't make them work out.

Now, it is hard to resist the thought of having a secondary with Nnamdi, DHall, OJ, and Landry. I think it'd be a pretty sick secondary having a complete shutdown corner (Nnamdi), ballhawking CB and FS (DHall/OJ), and a hard tackling SS (Landry).

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

On the other hand, these are the Redskins. They don't just participate in bidding wars, they end them.

I don't see Philly as a major contender for Nnamdi. I see Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Washington, or a return to Oakland. He'd have to take less money to go back to Oakland because of their cap situation. Given the alternatives, that might be the best place to be. --EDIT-- Oh, and Tampa Bay. Aqib Talib is going to be difficult to replace otherwise.

He's going to sign the biggest contract ever for a player 30 years or older, no matter where he signs.

They used to operate that way, we haven't seen that same pattern under Allen so far.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

They used to operate that way, we haven't seen that same pattern under Allen so far.

Well, the extension they gave McNabb mid-season last year was kind of bizarre. Even though we didn't cough up a lot of guaranteed money and the years/dollars were misleading, it was definitely a head-scratcher considering Shanny and Co never really seemed sold on DM as a QB once the season really got rolling.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, the extension they gave McNabb mid-season last year was kind of bizarre. Even though we didn't cough up a lot of guaranteed money and the years/dollars were misleading, it was definitely a head-scratcher considering Shanny and Co never really seemed sold on DM as a QB once the season really got rolling.

Yeah but that deal was to simply hang on to his rights for this season so they can hopefully trade him for a pick.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I don't see him landing here at all. The bidding war for him is going to be crazy.

It's been reported he's seeking $19 million a year which would make him the highest paid player in the history of the NFL. That's a steep price for any player.
I agree....and don't see it happening here.

[CrustyRedskin]

The cowgirsl want him bad!!

[skinsfan69]

I would say no. As someone else mentioned we just have way too many holes to sign and guy like that. Plus why would he come to a team that's in rebuild mode? He's going to end up on a true contender.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I would say no. As someone else mentioned we just have way too many holes to sign and guy like that. Plus why would he come to a team that's in rebuild mode? He's going to end up on a true contender.

Don't read too much into the whole contender thing. I say that because Moneys the key to everything. Take Charles Woodson for example. Woodson, like Nnamdi was a pro bowl corner leaving oakland in his 8 year. Woodson said he wanted to leave for a team that would be a contender. He went to Green Bay who was coming off a 6-10 season. You can Not tell me he signed with them because he knew they were a super bowl contender, 5 years later they were but that season, no not at all, he by the way signed an 7 year $52 million contract, which was big bucks on that market, that year.

Look at AH for this case. He said he wanted to get paid and be on a contender. The Bucs offered him a few million more than us, and he said he came here because he believed we were contenders; The bucs offered about 2 million more in guaranteed money. Either way the guy was gonna get paid, and money was his first and most important factor.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Don't read too much into the whole contender thing. I say that because Moneys the key to everything. Take Charles Woodson for example. Woodson, like Nnamdi was a pro bowl corner leaving oakland in his 8 year. Woodson said he wanted to leave for a team that would be a contender. He went to Green Bay who was coming off a 6-10 season. You can Not tell me he signed with them because he knew they were a super bowl contender, 5 years later they were but that season, no not at all, he by the way signed an 7 year $52 million contract, which was big bucks on that market, that year.

Look at AH for this case. He said he wanted to get paid and be on a contender. The Bucs offered him a few million more than us, and he said he came here because he believed we were contenders; The bucs offered about 2 million more in guaranteed money. Either way the guy was gonna get paid, and money was his first and most important factor.

All good points but to be fair GB still had Farve. We don't have anyone under center that gives us a chance to win.

[NLC1054]

Don't think he'll end up here. Price is too high, not sure he's a good fit for our style of 3-4 defense, some depth in the corner market, and they might do something crazy and play Kevin Barnes...nah, as good as Nnamdi is, I don't see us backing up the Brinks truck for him.

[CultBrennan59]

If people have Really been following the whole Nnamdi thing, you should know:

- The new imposed Salary cap will hurt a team like the cowboys and not effect the redskins. the cowboys can sign Nnamdi if they don't bother resigning doug free and release Terrance Newman, but stephen jones has said that they intend on resigning doug free as their top priority.

-Houston Is in the running, I don't see anywhere where Nnamdi says he doesn't want to play there, They with a good QB and amazing WR and great running back gives them a great championship contending offense, it's just the huge question mark of a defense they have, being that they have money and a CB need, Nnamdi is definitely an option that is very possible.

- The Raiders will not resign him because he hates al davis and his unwinning ways.

- The Jets are a possibility, but only if he signs at a lower rate than what he's asking...not going to happen. Contender wise, it could happen.

- The Eagles want him, but have back up plans (Ike Taylor) if they can't get him/he outprices himself for them.

- The redskins have been named a possibility for a while now. Shanahan loves him from the denver days. We are BIG spenders. NFL writers and analysts have had us linked to Nnamdi for more than financial reasons for the past few months. One CBS.com writer who predicted AH coming here a few years ago is predicting Nnamdi coming here..not saying;just saying.

Meaning of this post: Don't knock out any of these teams from getting Nnamdi (except oakland)

[MTK]

Cowboys see Asomugha as huge long shot | ProFootballTalk

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Dallas would have some serious house cleaning to do

[Monkeydad]

Also, who is to say we wouldn't be a contender WITH Nnamdi? We'd have one of the best secondaries of all time with Nnamdi, Hall, Landry and Atogwe. Easily the best in the NFL today, but I can't recall a secondary THAT strong at all 4 positions. Plus, the 3-4 is going to be dramatically improved in Year 2...defense could be one of the better in the league if we can plug that nose tackle hole with someone like Aubrayo Franklin.

We're also likely to add Cullen Jenkins at DE, who may want to play for us.

Free agency: Who will Redskins target when lockout ends? - The Insider - The Washington Post

A person familiar with the situation said that there is mutual interest between Washington and end Cullen Jenkins.

If we get all three of those guys, this defense would be scary good. Even without Nnamdi, if we can get a Cromatie or Ike Taylor...upgrade over Rogers.

On the other side of the ball, we have great young depth at all skill positions. The O-line will continue to be the question mark, even more than QB.

We could end up with a Ravens SB-winning model...dominant D, good running game and a QB who is surrounded with enough help to be effective.

If the other thread is true and we'll actually be forced to spend MORE...we can definitely get all of these guys. Allen is eager to spend and he'll spend smarter to fill needs than the last regime.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Monkeydad

Also, who is to say we wouldn't be a contender WITH Nnamdi? We'd have one of the best secondaries of all time with Nnamdi, Hall, Landry and Atogwe. Easily the best in the NFL today, but I can't recall a secondary THAT strong at all 4 positions. Plus, the 3-4 is going to be dramatically improved in Year 2...defense could be one of the better in the league if we can plug that nose tackle hole with someone like Aubrayo Franklin.

Uh, that's not even a particularly good secondary. Nnamdi and Landry are top flight NFL DBs; Hall and Atogwe are mostly unwanted as starters. Both have been unrestricted free agents in the past three years and had to sign deals for well below the going rate for an NFL starter.

Last year's secondary lacked anyone who could play the free safety position, and Atogwe brings at least that.

The best secondaries in football are probably Green Bay and Kansas City. Chicago is really good in the secondary. New Orleans is getting a lot better at that level, and Malcolm Jenkins and Jabari Greer and Tracy Porter and Pat Robinson would all be starters on the Redskins. Roman Harper isn't LaRon Landry, but that's not a big deal for them.

The AFC kind of struggles at pass defense as a group, but even the proposed secondary you have above has three pass defense weak links between Atogwe, Hall, and Landry.

Adding Nnamdi gives us a great player in our defense, but it doesn't make the unit better than the sum of it's parts. That's what the Raiders have found out over the years. You can have Asomugha and still struggle to defend mediocre passers. In terms of covering the other team's recievers, you're really only as good as your weakest link. Which for us, is Hall and our safeties.