The 2011 NFL Combine Discussion Thread

[diehard]

Von Miller's first run is 4.46.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by diehard

Von Miller's first run is 4.46.

I'd love it if he lasted until #10. Not gonna happen though.

For all the talk about what an athlete Cam Newton is, did anyone else see Gabbert's measurables? His 40, vertical leap, broad jump, and three cone drill were all nearly identical to Newton.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I'd love it if he lasted until #10. Not gonna happen though.

For all the talk about what an athlete Cam Newton is, did anyone else see Gabbert's measurables? His 40, vertical leap, broad jump, and three cone drill were all nearly identical to Newton.

I said the same about Orakpo a few years ago, don't be surprised if he falls to us though, because who knows a lot of the teams in front of us could get DE's and DL and QBs then the next thing you know a team may like Akeem Ayers more than Miller or maybe a team grabs a guy who isn't projected to go until the 20's-- the Tyson Alaulau effect. And then theres the small chance we trade up to get him. Have faith though, he can still be a redskin, and if he isn't its fine, because I think he could easily be a bust, by being injury prone and run on a lot because of his lack of size.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

I said the same about Orakpo a few years ago, don't be surprised if he falls to us though, because who knows a lot of the teams in front of us could get DE's and DL and QBs then the next thing you know a team may like Akeem Ayers more than Miller or maybe a team grabs a guy who isn't projected to go until the 20's-- the Tyson Alaulau effect. And then theres the small chance we trade up to get him. Have faith though, he can still be a redskin, and if he isn't its fine, because I think he could easily be a bust, by being injury prone and run on a lot because of his lack of size.

Yeah, you could be right the more I think about it. Julio Jones is looking like a top 10 pick now, and you gotta think Buffalo and Arizona are candidates for Gabbert/Newton.

I guess if Dareus, Fairley, Patterson, Jones, Green, Gabbert, Newton, Bowers, Watt, and Amukumara all go top 9, we could land Von Miller. Who knows.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

surprised this wasn't already up

gonna post some PFT links up of things that've happened so far

Rams scout arrested in Indy for public intoxication, public nudity | ProFootballTalk

I expect the Jets to make him a job offer soon.

[Chico23231]

So I heard Cam followed up a poor showing throwing the ball, with super poor performance in the team interviews...

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Chico23231

So I heard Cam followed up a poor showing throwing the ball, with super poor performance in the team interviews...

Check and mate. Exactly why I've been a proponent for going defense with #10. I guarantee you a #10 QB pick will end in disaster.

[skinsfaninok]

Patrick Peterson, Jimmy Smith fly in forty | ProFootballTalk

will PP be the number 1 pick?

[CultBrennan59]

I've liked Jimmy Smith a lot, he reminds me of Ike Taylor of the steelers. Smith himself thinks he's the next Nnamdi but we'll have to wait on that one.

[skinsfaninok]

Locker won’t opt for a dugout in a lockout | ProFootballTalk

[30gut]

I think there should be a distinction between the Denver WCO w/ Mike Shanahan calling the plays and the Denver WCO (Houston variant) w/ Kyle Shanahan calling the plays.

E.g-

Mike has been close to a 50/50 pass/run ratio vs Kyle w/ a 60/40 pass/run ratio

Mike has had several different types of QBs at the helm most of whom have been mobile, some of which have had big time arms

Kyle has had a QB w/ average to below average mobility in Schaub/Grossman and average arm strength

Mike's offense features a lot of action passess (sprint, dash, bootleg, etc) well defined reads, often half-field reads which makes it easier for a QB to execute

Kyle's offense features more straight drop back passing with the emphasis on QB decision making

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I think there should be a distinction between the Denver WCO w/ Mike Shanahan calling the plays and the Denver WCO (Houston variant) w/ Kyle Shanahan calling the plays.

E.g-

Mike has been close to a 50/50 pass/run ratio vs Kyle w/ a 60/40 pass/run ratio

Mike has had several different types of QBs at the helm most of whom have been mobile, some of which have had big time arms

Kyle has had a QB w/ average to below average mobility in Schaub/Grossman and average arm strength

Mike's offense features a lot of action passess (sprint, dash, bootleg, etc) well defined reads, often half-field reads which makes it easier for a QB to execute

Kyle's offense features more straight drop back passing with the emphasis on QB decision making

so basically KS/MS won't work?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

so basically KS/MS won't work?

Sure it will work, my point is that when people say 'player X is a perfect for the Shanahan's scheme' it may or may not be true depending on how that person views the Shanahan scheme or offense do they view it as Mike's or Kyle's?

E.g:

If you were picking the ideal QB for Mike Shanahan's playcalling Matt Schaub probably doesn't have the ideal skillset but is very productive under Kyle's playcalling.

Imo the running game is of much greater importance under Mike Shanahan's playcalling because of his emphasis on the ground game and balance whereas the running game isn't a major point of emphasis for Kyle. (at least thus far)

[SOUL-SKINS]

Reports that Von Miller just ran a 4.49 at A&M's Pro Day. Hello, Top 5.