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[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Damn straight. Hating on Moore...sheesh, I let that happen and we'll have total...fanarchy

Hahaha!

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Damn straight. Hating on Moore...sheesh, I let that happen and we'll have total...fanarchy

Zing! He'll be here all week folks.

[Dirtbag59]

Vicks production didn't drop that much. He truly was the definition of "you can't stop him you can only hope to contain him" for the 2010 season. Packers (in the playoffs not week 1) and Vikings were the only teams that truly stopped him this past year. Bears were the first to really slow him down but he still played well in that game. In the end it seems the only real way to stop Vick these days is hope you get him at the end of the season, since by then he'll have taken a beating.

And keep in mind this is coming from someone who before last year lothed Vick as a QB on any team.

On a side note it would seem the Redskins were the first team to provide a blueprint for Vick. Just knock him out the game, iz simple.

[NLC1054]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Vicks production didn't drop that much. He truly was the definition of "you can't stop him you can only hope to contain him" for the 2010 season. Packers (in the playoffs not week 1) and Vikings were the only teams that truly stopped him this past year. Bears were the first to really slow him down but he still played well in that game. In the end it seems the only real way to stop Vick these days is hope you get him at the end of the season, since by then he'll have taken a beating.

And keep in mind this is coming from someone who before last year lothed Vick as a QB on any team.

On a side note it would seem the Redskins were the first team to provide a blueprint for Vick. Just knock him out the game, iz simple.

Squishing him did seem the best way to keep him from kicking our ass...

[fanarchist]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Vicks production didn't drop that much. He truly was the definition of "you can't stop him you can only hope to contain him" for the 2010 season. Packers (in the playoffs not week 1) and Vikings were the only teams that truly stopped him this past year. Bears were the first to really slow him down but he still played well in that game. In the end it seems the only real way to stop Vick these days is hope you get him at the end of the season, since by then he'll have taken a beating.

And keep in mind this is coming from someone who before last year lothed Vick as a QB on any team.

On a side note it would seem the Redskins were the first team to provide a blueprint for Vick. Just knock him out the game, iz simple.

I'm afraid you need to go back a check your stats, 0 ints in the first half of the season and after they play the Giants who contained, sacked and stiffled Vick all game he throws 6 picks in his last 5 games.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by fanarchist

I'm afraid you need to go back a check your stats, 0 ints in the first half of the season and after they play the Giants who contained, sacked and stiffled Vick all game he throws 6 picks in his last 5 games.

Yet despite 6 ints he still posted a passer rating above 90 in 4 of those 5 games following the Giants. The only reason people make a big deal out of the Ints was because he had thrown zero all year. Every QB throws Int's. The real test is where do you throw them and do you offset them with TD Passes and runs. In those same 5 games he threw for 10 TD's and ran for 4 more. Of course if we include runs we have to include lost fumbles of which he lost 2. So 14 TD's, 8 Turovers. And the Giants in the game where they stopped him gave up 27 points 2 of which were a two point conversion from Vick. The Bears on the other hand held him to 26 points lol.

The first time anyone stopped Vick since that first Redskin game was the Vikings in the second to last week.

[30gut]

+1

Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

The first time anyone stopped Vick since that first Redskin game was the Vikings in the second to last week.

Vick, Reid and the Eagles OL did a terrible job picking up the Vikwes nickel blitz.
It seemed like every time the Eagles went 3 wide the Vikes brought a NB and they were in the backfield untouched.

[NLC1054]

Yes, he threw 6 picks in his last six 5 games.

He also threw 10 touchdowns and rushed for 4 touchdowns in the last 5 games, rushed for an average of 60.5 yards per game (including a 130 yard rushing performance against the same Giants that provided a "blueprint" on how to beat him), and had a 62.5 completion percentage average in all five of those games.

...Yeah, I'd say teams needed to rework their blueprint on Vick a little bit....

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by NLC1054

Yes, he threw 6 picks in his last six 5 games.

He also threw 10 touchdowns and rushed for 4 touchdowns in the last 5 games, rushed for an average of 60.5 yards per game (including a 130 yard rushing performance against the same Giants that provided a "blueprint" on how to beat him), and had a 62.5 completion percentage average in all five of those games.

...Yeah, I'd say teams needed to rework their blueprint on Vick a little bit....

I'm telling you it's knock him out or wait until the very end of the season and hope that he's more banged up then everyone else. In other news NLC and I are the same poster. Good thing it's not against the rules to have two accounts.

[fanarchist]

62.5 is still a drop off from 64 percent in his first 7 games. Maybe not as drastic as I initially thought. 12 TD to 0 ints in the first 6 games. 12 TD to 7 ints in the final 6. 56.8 to 60.5 so his rushing did improve but his rushing attempts were also on the rise. Probably due to the fact that he was running for dear life. He was sacked 20 times over the last half of the season. 109.4 was his QB rating over the first 6 and 89.9 (slightly above average) was his QB rating over the last 6. He declined in just about every catagory. But I will concede the rushing yardage, rushing TDs and the second Giants game to you sir. I'm willing to admit when you make a valid point.