Redskins D-coordinator talks frustration over Haynesworth

[Defensewins]

Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly. That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly. That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.

Preach

And how could the league suspend him right now anyway?

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Preach

And how could the league suspend him right now anyway?

They can't suspend him now, but they can (and will) once it ends. Goodell has already been on record saying the stuff that happens during this lockout will still warrant action if necessary.

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They can't suspend him now, but they can (and will) once it ends. Goodell has already been on record saying the stuff that happens during this lockout will still warrant action if necessary.

Of course hes going to say that stuff that happens during the lockout can get you suspended, he cant say anything else.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Great points Ruhskins.
It is time to move on. I couldn't care less what the media or rest of the country thinks of the Redskins or DS. Who cares? I don't.
Just win. Winning cures all....or at least field a competitive team that improves each year and is fun to watch.
I really think the delay in getting rid of him has more to do with trying to control or prevent AH from going to a team in our division like Philly. That would be a bad thing. I think a Tennessee deal would be ideal.

Yeah the sports reporters were saying the eagles had offered us a 4th in last years draft. This is a sad, odd situation.

I agree with Ruhskins, time to just move on and I was one who wanted him to rot out on the bench for 2 more years.

Eff it, he burned us for about 20 extra mil. Time to cut the losses and just move on . . . . after we find a way of ensuring he doesnt go to the NFC east.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Yeah the sports reporters were saying the eagles had offered us a 4th in last years draft. This is a sad, odd situation.

I agree with Ruhskins, time to just move on and I was one who wanted him to rot out on the bench for 2 more years.

Eff it, he burned us for about 20 extra mil. Time to cut the losses and just move on . . . . after we find a way of ensuring he doesnt go to the NFC east.

I seriously doubt that the Eagles ever offered the Redskins a 4th round pick for Haynesworth.

[SmootSmack]

The Eagles didn't offer us a 4th for Haynesworth

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Eagles didn't offer us a 4th for Haynesworth

Thats what Czabe and I think their chubby friend Florio said about a week or so ago on the radio. I figured they'd be credible enough.

Did some quick googling, stuff about how the eagles declined a Haynesworth and pick for mcnabb deal and a AH and landry deal for mcnabb. Maybe it was the 2nd and AH, then Ah got replaced by that conditional 3rd-4th rounder.

Thank goodness landry didnt go. Could you imagine losing him in return for 1 season of mcnabb?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

Thats what Czabe and I think their chubby friend Florio said about a week or so ago on the radio. I figured they'd be credible enough.

Did some quick googling, stuff about how the eagles declined a Haynesworth and pick for mcnabb deal and a AH and landry deal for mcnabb. Maybe it was the 2nd and AH, then Ah got replaced by that conditional 3rd-4th rounder.

Thank goodness landry didnt go. Could you imagine losing him in return for 1 season of mcnabb?

Remember when many misguided folks on this sight wanted to get rid of Landry before last season? Amazing what a difference a year can make.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Remember when many misguided folks on this sight wanted to get rid of Landry before last season?

I never understood those people myself.

[Longtimefan]

I think there are two basic reasons why Haynesworth is still with the Redskins. (1) He was signed to a lengthy contract with a huge signing bonus and the team has seemed destined to get some production from him in exchange for their investment. Problem is, Albert has refused to cooperate in every way, utilizing his self centered demands to serve only as a distraction. (2) Driven by that determination to get "something" from Haynesworth they continued to put up with his antics and embarrassments hoping against hope that he would eventually come around. They were just as determined to not just let him walk and not get at least [what they feel] to be equal value in return. Convinced the guy has talent and can still play, they've been content to hold out for the best offer they could get in exchange. As a result, Haynesworth is still here because of the dilemma he presents. When teams are free to make transactions, I believe the conclusion has been reached that it's time to move on from "one" Albert Haynesworth.

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I think there are two basic reasons why Haynesworth is still with the Redskins. (1) He was signed to a lengthy contract with a huge signing bonus and the team has seemed destined to get some production from him in exchange for their investment. Problem is, Albert has refused to cooperate in every way, utilizing his self centered demands to serve only as a distraction. (2) Driven by that determination to get "something" from Haynesworth they continued to put up with his antics and embarrassments hoping against hope that he would eventually come around. They were just as determined to not just let him walk and not get at least [what they feel] to be equal value in return. Convinced the guy has talent and can still play, they've been content to hold out for the best offer they could get in exchange. As a result, Haynesworth is still here because of the dilemma he presents. When teams are free to make transactions, I believe the conclusion has been reached that it's time to move on from "one" Albert Haynesworth.

Perhaps there is a third reason he is still here:

After showing up out of shape and not being cooperative with the coaches about how and when he would play, Shanahan (with Allen's blessing/concurrence) decided that they were not going to cut Haynesworth and allow him to go out on the open market and take down another 8-figure signing bonus. [Sadly, he would probably get one somewhere...] So they kept him last year hoping to trade him at the draft - - but trades of players were disallowed so that idea went up in smoke.

If my scenario is even close to correct, then Shanahan/Allen have to change their minds about giving Haynesworth the chance at another fat payday and stand by while that happens if they release him. OR they can try for a VERY late round pick in a trade. The problem here is that if my scenario is correct, that means that Shanahan/Allen have to look in the mirror and admit that Fat Albert beat them in this little stand-off. Ego bruises are lots worse than football bruises...

[53Fan]

I hope Haynesworth is as confused about what's going to happen with him as I am.

[mlmpetert]

Haynesworth, Peja among top-paid benchwarmers - Yahoo! Sports

[44ever]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Haynesworth, Peja among top-paid benchwarmers - Yahoo! Sports

And the top paid bench warmer in all sports is a Redskin!
Of course, of course...