WP: Redskins’ Hall takes shots at ref and own coaches after 18-16 loss to Cowboys

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by dgack

That's a pretty lame analogy. Hall sometimes says dumb things and doesn't back them up. What that has to do with fans pointing out that he'd be better off just shutting up and playing? That's less clear.

And there's plenty of Grossman and Kyle bashing going on, not sure what gives you the impression there wasn't?

If it's not obvious, the main reason Hall is picked on is the same reason guys like Doughty get treated with kid gloves; nobody likes a guy who runs his mouth and then plays badly. Everyone likes a guy who keeps quiet and tries hard, even if he comes up short.

There's a difference between fans criticizing a guy like Hall (like most of us), and then there are the people that go out of their way to bash or defend Hall. I think at least one thread has been locked in the past b/c of this somewhat tiring debate about Hall.

I am by no way defending Hall, he makes tons of mistakes, including letting Bryant get a big possession. And he runs his mouth too much and needs to STFU. But personally I don't think he is worth multiple threads. People just loooove to complain I guess.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Fans in here become crybabies when it comes to this guy and it is getting kinda old. You'd think there'd be threads complaining about Grossman, the playcalling, the RBs, etc., etc.

The only reason is his mouth vaults him past those other issues. Had he said nothing or said "hey, we can't make the calls, we just have to execute" then this thread wouldn't even exist today. When Grossman or anybody else starts throwing coaches and other people under the bus after they've failed to execute and talked trash leading up, I'm 100% positive you'll see a thread on that person as well.

[dgack]

People just loooove to complain I guess.

Yeah, that's an understatement. But complaining takes energy and only people who care have the energy to post (whether it's positive or negative).

I'll take complainers who bleed Burgundy and Gold over bandwagoneers like the 90% of Dallas fans who have never set foot in Texas any day of the week.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by dgack

Yeah, that's an understatement. But complaining takes energy and only people who care have the energy to post (whether it's positive or negative).

I'll take complainers who bleed Burgundy and Gold over bandwagoneers like the 90% of Dallas fans who have never set foot in Texas any day of the week.

Good point.

[SmootSmack]

I mean a lot of people made some glaring mistakes yesterday. Barnes and his PI, Jammal Brown and his poor blocking in the 4th, Kyle and his playcalling, Rex and his ugly INT and fumble, Gaffney and his poor clock management, Banks and his poor field management, Rocca and his poor hands, and so on...but no one but Hall went and threw others under the bus after the game.

If this thread was only about Hall blowing the play the thread wouldn't have lasted this long. But it's more than that

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I mean a lot of people made some glaring mistakes yesterday. Barnes and his PI, Jammal Brown and his poor blocking in the 4th, Kyle and his playcalling, Rex and his ugly INT and fumble, Gaffney and his poor clock management, Banks and his poor field management, Rocca and his poor hands, and so on...but no one but Hall went and threw others under the bus after the game.

If this thread was only about Hall blowing the play the thread wouldn't have lasted this long. But it's more than that

I will be curious to see how Shanahan handles this situation. Let's hope it is handled better than the Haynesworth circus last year. Otherwise, we are in for another circus year.

Also, there needs to be locker room leadership from someone (Fletch?) to go up to Hall and smack him around for saying stupid things like that.

Hall deserves all the criticism that goes his way, however, players like him happen in the league. I hope Shanahan can take care of this situation.

[Bucket]

Sorry, but the play call was terrible.. Romo couldn't even throw the ball 20 yards last night and we knew what targets he was going after.. 5 man rush, and drop back in coverage while padding over Whitten/Bryant would of been the better Defensive Call..

Defense played well all night, but the offensive play calling was horrid. I feel like Rex Grossman was held back from playing his type of football Monday night.. If they would of unloaded like they did the first two games and stopped all the timid play calling then things might of went another way..

I dont remember seeing 1 bootleg monday night

[Bucket]

Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls

But he's also a team captain and should know better. And if not, the team needs to figure out how to make him know better.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls

Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"

[mooby]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"

LMAO I thought the same thing. I even started thinking up a response like "what do his kids have to do with this" and I think I was like PI calls? Where did I get kids from. GC SS, GC indeed.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"

Lol!

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"

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[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Ok, did anyone else think this post was going to end with "kids" and not "PI calls"

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Bucket

Hall is Hall... He's emotional and wants to win. He wont hold back those emotions, and I think he played a good game Monday night, and hes been playing well so far this season.

Could be worse... He could be Commartie from the Jets and have like 15 PI calls

Thats the thing, he did. His play was solid all night long. Unfortuanately for Hall, he also gave up the play that ended the game. Whose fault? Well Hall's fault obviously, but the assist came from Haslett calling the same exact blitz 3 plays in a row. BUT Hall should have kept his mouth shut.


Oh Commartie, that overpaid POS got owned by the dangerous Jason Campbell-led passing attack of the Raiders. I watched most of the game, he's miserable. We should be very thankful hes not on the field for us.