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Old 10-18-2011, 09:01 AM   #1
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Yeah. I'm not a Beck finatic but I was glad he came in and was able to do a little something. But was pissed me off more then anything was he came in with 12 min. to go of the game ..... and only musterd 2 drives? Where was the 2 min. drill? I'm expecting Payton Manning from either Grossman or Beck in the second yr of their tenure, no huddle offense drive the ball and we get more McNabb...... huddle up.... huddle up...... huddle up. Fail on the 2 min. drill.
I was annoyed by that too, and Fox's commentators noted it as well. Gotta figure that it was largely due to Beck not having regular reps w/the 1st team. Still, your backup should be able to come in & run the 2 minute offense. I wonder if Shanny was trying to give the D more rest & figured that Beck would be more successful at the regular pace.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:06 PM   #2
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Orakpo went helmet to helmet, so at least there was something substancial to flag. The problem was that the call of "roughing the passer" is incredibly generous there. Vick wasn't stepping into a throw to complete a pass, he was doing the only thing he could do to not be on his one yard line on the next play.

By the same token, Ronnie Brown was technically a "passer" on his goal line fumble against the 49ers, but he wasn't "roughed", he was tackled. If the passer is standing in the pocket and is defenseless, then give him protection on helmet to helmet. Once he flushes from the pocket, now the process of tackling gets more complicated, and I don't think you can flag helmet to helmet anymore at that point.

Brutal call.
Yes, brutal call. What really got me was that Vick intentionally grounded. So even if Rak got flagged for his hit, it still should have been offsetting penalties.

It should have been a safety but instead Philly got a free first down. Ugh.
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Yes, brutal call. What really got me was that Vick intentionally grounded. So even if Rak got flagged for his hit, it still should have been offsetting penalties.

It should have been a safety but instead Philly got a free first down. Ugh.

IMO that was the turning point, they went on to roll us up after that drive
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:26 PM   #4
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IMO that was the turning point, they went on to roll us up after that drive
I felt that way at first, but sorry, the D has to step up, that's not an excuse for them to then rattle of a long TD drive. At some point you have to stop them on that drive.
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Old 10-17-2011, 03:28 PM   #5
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Rex - I was in the "if it ain't broke" camp with Rex. But this game was the last straw, I'm done with this guy for good. It's not even the picks per se. It's the fact that Rex has zero game management skills. It's like he's playing Madden from his couch.. against the computer!! That pick in the 3rd right after we intercepted Vince was UNACCEPTABLE. If Rex was a gunslinging rookie I'd cut him some slack. But to see that from a veteran QB tells me there's no hope with this guy. I'm done with his care-free out-of-shape attitude. I can't think of a single scenario where I want to see Rex start again. I'd rather watch Beck throw 7 picks.

D - better in the 2nd half but we got steamrolled in the first half. It was a mini version of last year. And how do we not stop McCoy in the last 2 minutes??? Everyone knows he's getting the ball but we're still powerless. Weak. Eagles deserve some credit they ran a good game plan but still... our D is not there yet.

McIntosh - very bad game right after one of his best games. See chicken pic above.

Secondary - sucks. Can't understand why we're giving 15-yard cushions on 30-yard passes. I like Josh Wilson but he took a step back yesterday. Landry is the best cover guy in our secondary and that's a scary thought.

Refs - won't blame the refs for this loss but that call on Orakpo sucked ass. Changed the whole momentum of the game too.
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:18 AM   #6
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that was the worst call I've seen all year and yes he should ****in fired
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Old 10-17-2011, 12:26 PM   #7
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that was the worst call I've seen all year and yes he should ****in fired
Overreact much?
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Old 10-17-2011, 11:59 AM   #8
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There will be no major upgrade or down grade by starting Beck, both him and Rex are stop gaps at that position. So arguing about which should be in is fruitless the are the same level of talent/skill their only difference is their names.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:36 PM   #9
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So what if Beck starts Sunday and throws 3 ints's and has a piss poor game? Then what? Might as well start him and see what ya got, cause everyone in the world of pro football knows what you got in Rexy, im not bashin Rex he just is what he is at qb, a band aid.
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Old 10-17-2011, 01:39 PM   #10
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So what if Beck starts Sunday and throws 3 ints's and gets has a piss poor game? Then what? Might as well start him and see what ya got, cause everyone in the world of pro football knows what you got in Rexy, im not bashin Rex he just is what he is at qb, a band aid.
Then we bring on Rockytop Crompton! Woot woot!
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So what if Beck starts Sunday and throws 3 ints's and gets has a piss poor game? Then what? Might as well start him and see what ya got, cause everyone in the world of pro football knows what you got in Rexy, im not bashin Rex he just is what he is at qb, a band aid.
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Old 10-17-2011, 02:22 PM   #12
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3-2 ... I don't think this team deserves to be smacked down so hard after that loss .. not after they stood strong and fought to get back in that game .. when D-Hall made that pic @ the 20. That should have been 6 pts, instead Rex (who i've supported since game 1) made a bonehead play. At that point in would have been 20-13 with some serious momentum, who knows. But it didn't happen and Rex got worse by the minute and it showed BADLY. Beck provides just enough wiggle out of the pocket and he looks hungry, i truly thought Rex was going to have a solid SEASON but I have changed my tune quickly. Beck is going to be #1 unless he gets hurt. We have dangerous Panthers team next week then big match up with Bills in Toronto. 4-3 or possible 5-2 we are in a whole different mindset. 3-4 would be donski for the Skins'. I sure hope not,this DEFENSE is too good to let that happen. Shannys will get running game back on track, I have faith and I'm not ready to throw in the towel yet. Lots of football left. HTTR

Beck as soon as he came in had a look of "i'm not coming back out again unless i'm carted off" .. Rex had a look on sidelines like "f*** me"
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So what if Beck starts Sunday and throws 3 ints's and has a piss poor game? Then what? Might as well start him and see what ya got, cause everyone in the world of pro football knows what you got in Rexy, im not bashin Rex he just is what he is at qb, a band aid.
QB battle between Clemens and Chappell!
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QB battle between Clemens and Chappell!
Id take Dave Chappell, that would spice up the O a bit, but when keeping it real goes wrong you know what happens......
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my sign reflects exactly how I felt about this game ..
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