The Skins Are Really A Very Horrible Bad Team

[sportscurmudgeon]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

It's the FO's job to have competent reserves in place. Failing to maintain a certain level performance after an injury shows a failure to do that job.

Sir Clinton speaks the TRUTH!!!

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

It's the FO's job to have competent reserves in place. Failing to maintain a certain level performance after an injury shows a failure to do that job.

Hell, they haven't even got around to replacing all the "starters" and people are villifying them for having depth?


Not sure what you all expected. The restricted FA his first year and a lockout the following off-season. You can't make something out of nothing.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Hell, they haven't even got around to replacing all the "starters" and people are villifying them for having depth?


Not sure what you all expected. The restricted FA his first year and a lockout the following off-season. You can't make something out of nothing.

Well, I do cut them some slack. As you said, you can't get both great starters and quality depth for every position all in one offseason, especially with the "spring is almost dry".

But at the same time, they did willingly choose to engage in a couple risky and potentially costly short-term moves that still might have delayed progress in acquiring young talent. This is where the "really bad" aspect of their failure lies.

However, it seems they learned their lesson and are finally "hunting" the "right" way. Hold on to the draft picks, make low-risk trades, and use free agency judiciously.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Nope, as was said to me after the first game, ....injuries are no excuse ...all teams have them and must deal with them, "players need to step up".

Still the injuries affected your team, hence our win (now looking back). For our team the injuries is just one of the list of things that is wrong with this team.

[Chico23231]

Originally Posted by Giantone

Nope, as was said to me after the first game, ....injuries are no excuse ...all teams have them and must deal with them, "players need to step up".

Amen. As long as we are in the rebuilding mode, having a group of young guys stepping in now builds very quality depth. The returns on the experience is nothing but a positive and results will show in future. Blocks that sit around cant be built without a little action. These injuries though bad, bring indirect benefits.

[Beemnseven]

why is this in the "Redskins Gear" forum?

[SmootSmack]

Hadn't even noticed. Maybe because he was trying to sell tix as well?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

In other words, our new GM is in over his head.

No, in other words our previous "GM" was so incompetent and big name hungry that our salary cap situation left no option for bringing in competent back up players and our new FO knows that when you build, you do it one step at a time. Regardless of basic fan stupidity(just to be cleared not calling anyone here stupid )

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No, in other words our previous "GM" was so incompetent and big name hungry that our salary cap situation left no option for bringing in competent back up players and our new FO knows that when you build, you do it one step at a time. Regardless of basic fan stupidity(just to be cleared not calling anyone here stupid )

I can see the reasoning in not caring about the first two years of the new regime and chalk them up to pure rebuilding, but this is totally regressive and smacks of a FO that might not be entirely stable. Case in point, bringing in McNabb, only to toss him out within the space of less than one season. They knew we had junk at Qb so they did the bold move to acquire McNabb and get Grossman as the backup. Rail against Donovan all you want, but he was a lot better last season than Beck or Grossman this season. IF they were going to do a Dive for a Top 5 or Suck for Luck type thing, why bother even getting McNabb if they didn't care about winning now? Do you see my point. Why get a top FA QB and lose draft picks if you already know you have squat to work with, and will lose with the FA QB. Sorry, but that is a Vinny type move to me!!!!!!

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

No, in other words our previous "GM" was so incompetent and big name hungry that our salary cap situation left no option for bringing in competent back up players and our new FO knows that when you build, you do it one step at a time. Regardless of basic fan stupidity(just to be cleared not calling anyone here stupid )

By the way you are implying someone is stupid(namely me). Siging McNabb, then dumping him within a season for Grossman was Vinnyesque if you ask me. The move for Beck was a 180 degree move away from "Vinnyism" and getting the sexy big name, but still as asanine as a Vinny move. Getting rid of McNabb was wise, but not replacing him either via draft or FA was nuts. I guess my point is if they were going to wait to build the O line before acquiring the anointed QB via the draft, why bring in the big name FA QB then drop him like a dead fly before the first season is over. I have been a Skins fan since I was a boy, so I can endure this never ending rebuilding cycle we have been stuck in for 20 years, but what I don't like is a total regression within the space of one calendar year.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

By the way you are implying someone is stupid(namely me). Siging McNabb, then dumping him within a season for Grossman was Vinnyesque if you ask me. The move for Beck was a 180 degree move away from "Vinnyism" and getting the sexy big name, but still as asanine as a Vinny move. Getting rid of McNabb was wise, but not replacing him either via draft or FA was nuts. I guess my point is if they were going to wait to build the O line before acquiring the anointed QB via the draft, why bring in the big name FA QB then drop him like a dead fly before the first season is over. I have been a Skins fan since I was a boy, so I can endure this never ending rebuilding cycle we have been stuck in for 20 years, but what I don't like is a total regression within the space of one calendar year.

I honestly wasn't saying anyone was stupid, not you or anyone else on this forum.

I can give the explanation that I believe about McNabb, but overall I hated the move early and hated it at the end. But no front office gets every call right, and in the end if in two more years we still are rummaging in the basement of the nfc east then it will be time for a change. For me other than the qb, I think most of the moves have at least the potential to move us in the right direction, and I think that the whole FO knew that they were taking a new young qb in 2012 and the thing they were hoping or expecting with McNabb was to give a fresh start at qb, while setting up a positive change as the rookie got his feet going. Clearly they misjudged McNabbs ability in that respect.

[skinsfaninok]

Skins have been rebuilding since I was 5 smh how do u think I feel???

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Skins have been rebuilding since I was 5 smh how do u think I feel???

I personally think they've been rebuilding since this year. They've been losing like a rebuilding team for a long time.

[NC_Skins]

Bill Simmons ranks the NFL QBs from the transcendent to the putrid - Grantland

35. Rex Grossman
36. John Beck
Redskins fans arguing about Beck and Grossman is like Van Halen fans arguing about Mitch Malloy and Gary Cherone.

[DynamiteRave]

So do you guys think we'll keep either Rexy or Beck (okay, I know it's not gonna be him, but I have to include him) as our second string next season or we scrap them both and go after someone else?