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Old 11-08-2012, 09:41 PM   #1
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So we are gonna ignore the fact that he played DE in his rookie season when he had 11 sacks?
He was a stand up OLB buddy. They would blitz him.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:51 PM   #2
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He was a stand up OLB buddy. They would blitz him.
Ok man, if that helps you sleep at night.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:44 PM   #3
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Seriously?

Fletcher is not good anymore.
All of a sudden Fletcher isn't good anymore? I've been seeing people say that around here for the past few weeks. Fletcher has 73 tackles in 9 games which puts him on pace for him to have as many tackles as he had in 2008, 2009, and 2010. I see absolutely no drop off whatsoever from him.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:48 PM   #4
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All of a sudden Fletcher isn't good anymore? I've been seeing people say that around here for the past few weeks. Fletcher has 73 tackles in 9 games which puts him on pace for him to have as many tackles as he had in 2008, 2009, and 2010. I see absolutely no drop off whatsoever from him.

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Overall #48 (-14.3)

#47/51 vs Run, #37/51 Coverage

Pass Rush -1.2, Run Defense -7.5, Coverage -2.5 QB Sacks 1, QB Hits 0, QB Hurries 4

Tackles 49, Missed Tackles 14, Coverage Targets 54, Receptions 39(#51) , Yards 415(#51), Yac 191(#49), TD 4

LF is still playing with vertigo (balance issues), and it's obvious he doesn't need to be out there.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:54 PM   #5
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LF is still playing with vertigo (balance issues), and it's obvious he doesn't need to be out there.
That chart or report doesn't mean anything. Fletcher is still playing the same way he's been playing since he became a Redskin.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:08 PM   #6
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All of a sudden Fletcher isn't good anymore? I've been seeing people say that around here for the past few weeks. Fletcher has 73 tackles in 9 games which puts him on pace for him to have as many tackles as he had in 2008, 2009, and 2010. I see absolutely no drop off whatsoever from him.
London is not having a very good year. In 2011 he was rated the #8 inside LB and had 14 missed tackles in 16 games. In 2012 Fletch has 14 missed tackles in 9 games so expect that number to climb over the next 7 games.

In coverage he was targeted 54 times in 1033 snaps,2012 he has been targeted 55 times in 607 snaps. Offenses have found great success throwing against him getting Tight Ends matched up against him.

London is also dealing with the hammy issue and vertigo which do not help his play.

If London was 28 or 29 you might chalk it up to a bad year and expect a rebound, at 37 usually you decline rather than improve. Fletchs contract is structured so the team can move on this off season pretty easily so we will see what happens.

No shame in declining production at 37 years old either. Hell of a career but signs are there its coming to a end.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:47 PM   #7
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London is not having a very good year. In 2011 he was rated the #8 inside LB and had 14 missed tackles in 16 games. In 2012 Fletch has 14 missed tackles in 9 games so expect that number to climb over the next 7 games.

In coverage he was targeted 54 times in 1033 snaps,2012 he has been targeted 55 times in 607 snaps. Offenses have found great success throwing against him getting Tight Ends matched up against him.

London is also dealing with the hammy issue and vertigo which do not help his play.

If London was 28 or 29 you might chalk it up to a bad year and expect a rebound, at 37 usually you decline rather than improve. Fletchs contract is structured so the team can move on this off season pretty easily so we will see what happens.

No shame in declining production at 37 years old either. Hell of a career but signs are there its coming to a end.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:36 AM   #8
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All of a sudden Fletcher isn't good anymore? I've been seeing people say that around here for the past few weeks. Fletcher has 73 tackles in 9 games which puts him on pace for him to have as many tackles as he had in 2008, 2009, and 2010. I see absolutely no drop off whatsoever from him.
He's looked a bit slower, missed a few tackles he would have made last year, and been trucked a time or two. It's one of two things, either the nagging health issues (balance, hammy) are effecting him or they're excuses for London finally aging.

Either way, it's not the precipitous decline some bellyache about. Looks pretty gradual to me. Given the fact we NEED big talent infusions at RT, and three of four secondary spots I don't think ILB should be a real priority given the limited resources we have.

Fletcher could also be helped significantly by a better scheme. He's still one of the top three pure MLBs in football.
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Old 11-12-2012, 12:51 PM   #9
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He's looked a bit slower, missed a few tackles he would have made last year, and been trucked a time or two. It's one of two things, either the nagging health issues (balance, hammy) are effecting him or they're excuses for London finally aging.

Either way, it's not the precipitous decline some bellyache about. Looks pretty gradual to me. Given the fact we NEED big talent infusions at RT, and three of four secondary spots I don't think ILB should be a real priority given the limited resources we have.

Fletcher could also be helped significantly by a better scheme. He's still one of the top three pure MLBs in football.
We have the kid Robinson, all set to take over and one of the reasons he was drafted was his pass coverage, I would like to see him in more on the obvious passing downs to help take away the TE, because as much as I hate to admit it London has lost a step at least in pass defense he is still solid against the run.
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:59 PM   #10
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Love #59 but he's clearly slipping. He's missed a lot of tackles this year.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:34 PM   #11
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Love #59 but he's clearly slipping. He's missed a lot of tackles this year.
I'm afraid to say it but this could be his last year, as a Redskin.

It figures I've been searching for years to get his jersey when I finally do its after he starts slipping. Not that I care. Londons been a great player and I'm still going to rock it!
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:34 PM   #12
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Love #59 but he's clearly slipping. He's missed a lot of tackles this year.
+ he's been getting eaten up by TE's in coverage, since the NO game other teams have noticed and are exploiting it.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:06 AM   #13
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I can't begin to imagine Fletcher not playing in middle LB or inside LB for the Redskins.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:51 AM   #14
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